It's a podcast show about the working life of professional photographers and the photography industry as a whole. Join Dan M Lee & Mick Ryan as they blow the lid off the real events and issues that challenge them daily.

Listen to our fun, grumpy but highly entertaining podcast episodes about all kinds of genres, topics and even poke fun at ourselves, peers and the photography industry. Join in with our random game This or That which we play with our amazing guests, and get grumpy with us in Curmudgeon Corner. Our guests come from all corners of the photo industry, why not tune in and hear what we have to say.

The only place where podcasting and photography collides with two grumpy photographers from both sides of the Atlantic.