Claudia talks to Jonathan Balcombe about fishes and their varied and incredible experiences. Using the concept of ‘shoalmates’ as a launch pad, they discuss some of the intra- and inter-species relations fishes engage in from work to cuddle and play.  Date recorded: 30 November 2020 Jonathan Balcombe is a biologist with a PhD in ethology, the study of animal behavior. His books include Pleasurable Kingdom, Second Nature, The Exultant Ark, and What a Fish Knows—a New York Times best-seller now available in fifteen languages. His next book for grown-ups, Super Fly, will be published May 2021 by Penguin Books. A children’s story book about a boy and a fish is also scheduled for publication in 2021. He has taught courses in animal behavior and sentience for the Viridis Graduate Institute, and Humane Society University. He lives in Belleville, Ontario where in his spare time he enjoys biking, baking, birding, Bach, and trying to understand the neighborhood squirrels. Learn more about Jonathan and his work here.  Claudia (Towne) Hirtenfelder is the founder and host of The Animal Turn. She is a PhD Candidate in Geography and Planning at Queen’s University and is currently undertaking her own research project looking at the geographical and historical relationships between animals (specifically cows) and cities. Contact Claudia via email (towne@live.co.za) or follow her on Twitter (@ClaudiaFTowne). Featured:  A foray into the worlds of animals and humans By Jakob von Uexküll; Sterling murmuration by canoeists; The Ocean Sunfishes by Tierney Thys et al; The Dark Hobby by Paradise Filmworks Thank you to Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics (A.P.P.L.E) for sponsoring this podcast, Gordon Clarke (Instagram: @_con_sol_) for the bed music, and Jeremy John (Website) for the logo.  The Animal Turn is part of the  iROAR, an Animals Podcasting Network and can also be found on A.P.P.L.E, Twitter, and Instagram
Jonathan Balcombe is an ethologist and author, formerly Director of Animal Sentience with the Humane Society Institute for Science and Policy, and Department Chair for Animal Studies with Humane Society University, in Washington, DC. He also served as Associate Editor of the journal Animal Sentience and, until recently, Jonathan lectured internationally on animal behavior and the human-animal relationship.   Jonathan has worked for several animal protection organizations, including the Humane Society of the United States, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA).     Jonathan has published scholarly articles, book chapters, and popular science books on various topics including animal behavior, animal research, animal dissection, medical simulation, and veganism.  His most recent book is the NY Times bestseller, "What A Fish Knows: The Inner Lives of Our Underwater Cousins," which combines science and story-telling to examine the inner lives of the world's most diverse group of vertebrates. His next book, "SuperFly," is scheduled for release later this year.  Jonathan currently lives in southern Ontario, where in his spare time he enjoys biking, baking, birding, Bach, and trying to understand the squirrels in his neighborhood.   Find Jonathan and his writings at his website, and on social media.     
In this episode I am joined by Jonathan Balcombe, an expert in animal behaviour. We discuss his work exploring how intellectually and emotionally complex fish actually are, and dispel many of the hugely prevalent myths surrounding fish, and fish sentience. We also discuss some of their most interesting behaviours, whether or not it is ethical to eat mussels and oysters, and whether or not we should have home aquariums.Listen to find out:- Are fish self aware?- Are fish intelligent? - What does the science actually say about fish?- What about mussels and oysters, do they feel pain?- Is it ethical to eat mussels and oysters?- What about flies, and insects in terms of sentience?- What about pleasure for animals, can the world be a joyful place for them?- Can fish feel pride?- What about the pet industry,  should people have aquariums? ✺ Jonathan's website:  https://jonathan-balcombe.com/✺ To support the show & get access to exclusive monthly podcast episodes: http://www.patreon.com/earthlinged✺ Find out more about what I do & join my mailing list: http://www.earthlinged.org✺ Download my free 122 page e-book: http://www.earthlinged.org/ebook✺ Take a 22 day free vegan challenge: http://switchtovegan.co.uk✺ Become a supporter of my activism (thank you!): http://www.earthlinged.org/support 
Dr. Balcombe about the inner lives of fishes, cognition, and relationship with other animals!Dr. Jonathan Balcombe describes himself as a synthesizer, someone who pulls together research and practical information to correct or expand our often underestimated views and treatments of animals, including the often invisible, unliked, and unpopular animals. Jonathan shares his insights and stories about fishes cognition, being a machiavellian, play, human-fishes interaction, social dynamics, behaviour, recognition, memory, and emotions. For more information on Dr. Jonathan Balcombe please visit his WEBSITEShort bio: Jonathan Balcombe is a biologist with a PhD in ethology, the study of animal behavior. His books include Pleasurable Kingdom, Second Nature, The Exultant Ark, and What a Fish Knows--a New York Times best-seller now available in fifteen languages. His next book, all about flies, will be published November 2020 by Penguin Books. Jonathan does professional editing for aspiring and established authors, and he has taught a course in animal sentience for the Viridis Graduate Institute. He has given hundreds of public lectures and media appearances about his work. He lives in Belleville, Ontario where in his spare time he enjoys biking, baking, birding, Bach, and trying to understand the neighborhood squirrels. 
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