Kevin Lindsay is a more than 25 years Silicon Valley software product strategist and marketer, who developed a passion for systems thinking and cybernetics while he was a graduate student in transformative leadership at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS). Kevin is interested in complexity and paradox, and the power of systems thinking to help us understand and tackle the big messes humanity created and is now dealing with. Kevin has been an NBN host since July 2020.