I'm a big believer in learning from history. Understanding our mistakes and our wins from the past can help give us guidance for the here and now. In this episode, I sit down with presidential historian Paul Brandus, a historian, journalist, and frequent speaker at presidential libraries, for a look at why we're in the situation we're in, vis-à-vis Europe, Russia, and Ukraine, today. Paul and I also talk about some of his books, including Jackie: Her Transformation from First Lady to Jackie O, in which he tells us all about the challenges she faced as a single mother in the years after her husband had been assassinated and prior to marrying Aristotle Onassis.

Join us for this deep dive into European and US history with an added bonus of Jackie O. For more from Paul, you can follow him on Twitter, @westwingreport. Follow me @trish_regan. Plus make sure to sign up for my newsletter at AmericanConsequences.com