In this episode of the Anthropology in Business podcast, Michael Powell speaks with Matt Artz about his career as a business anthropologist. The conversation begins with a discussion of Michael's graduate school experience and how he combined his passion for art and anthropology. Michael shares how he adapted to a business environment and found creative research projects. Later in the episode, Michael and Matt discuss the benefits of remote ethnographic research and the challenges and opportunities of working as an independent consultant. Michael also discusses the art of ethnographic listening and shares his advice on starting a business.