Rob and Dan catch up with Zeenat Rahman, Executive Director of the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago. Zeenat shares how she found her purpose and got into policy  - what is policy?! Then we dig into the American reaction to war in Ukraine versus war in the Middle East, and how to over come difference and make the world a better place.  Enjoy and learn more about Zeenat and the Institute of Politics at https://politics.uchicago.edu.