Joel Comm (https://joelcomm.com) is an entrepreneur, NY Times bestselling author, and new media innovator. Joel is a sought-after public speaker who leaves his audience inspired, entertained, and armed with strategic tools to create a new media campaign that will explode their business. Joel's latest book is 'The Fun Formula: How Curiosity, Risk-Taking, and Serendipity Can Revolutionize How You Work' (https://amzn.to/38JFhZR). In this conversation Joel and Erik talk about The Fun Formula and how to Change your perspective on work. This episode is supported by:Honeybook (http://honeybook.com/beyond)Finance Pal (http://financepal.com/beyond)MetPro (http://metpro.co/beyond)