My guest this week is John Demsey, beauty brand mogul, and executive group president at Estée Lauder Companies.

John and I discuss what he learned from working retail jobs for a decade, how embracing hip hop’s glamour built MAC Cosmetics, how K-Pop and Tom Ford are getting men to wear makeup, and why hair and makeup are at the core of how people express themselves and how culture is formed.

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NOTES

(05:57) Rudi Gernreich

(09:22) Cleveland’s Rock and Roll History

(16:04) MAC Cosmetics

(28:37) Tom Ford Beauty

(35:01) K-Pop and Men’s Cosmetics

(39:26) Le Labo

(48:27) Edward Sexton (Blamo! Interview)

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