After Jesse tells Katie a touching story about shoveling food into his face-hole, and the hosts discuss his latest Twitter-feud -- this one with a noted New Yorker food critic (not staff writer) -- the hosts unpack a Slate article about detransition that seems geared at painting that community in a particularly negative and reactionary light. But Carey Callahan, a detransitioner, therapist, and activist (who, to be fair, Katie and Jesse already knew before this all popped up), doesn't think this is a fair assessment, so she joins the pod for a conversation about her own experiences and what she thinks the Slate article misses.Show notes/Links:Jesse criticizes Helen: https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1354851768090439684 (https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1354851768090439684) Helen's thoughtful response forces Jesse to reconsider his position: https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1355200463029874693 (https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1355200463029874693) https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1355974150129655813 (https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1355974150129655813) The Slate article about detransitioners: https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/02/detransition-movement-star-ex-gay-explained.html (https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/02/detransition-movement-star-ex-gay-explained.html) Katie's detrans article: https://www.thestranger.com/features/2017/06/28/25252342/the-detransitioners-they-were-transgender-until-they-werent (https://www.thestranger.com/features/2017/06/28/25252342/the-detransitioners-they-were-transgender-until-they-werent) Jesse's detrans article: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/when-a-child-says-shes-trans/561749/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/when-a-child-says-shes-trans/561749/) Carey Callahan's excellent stuff:Twitter: https://twitter.com/CareyCallsBS (https://twitter.com/CareyCallsBS) The Economist: https://www.economist.com/open-future/2019/12/03/gender-identity-is-hard-but-jumping-to-medical-solutions-is-worse (https://www.economist.com/open-future/2019/12/03/gender-identity-is-hard-but-jumping-to-medical-solutions-is-worse) Medium:https://medium.com/@mariacatt42/in-which-i-fail-to-find-you-any-gate-keeping-622c447a835f (https://medium.com/@mariacatt42/in-which-i-fail-to-find-you-any-gate-keeping-622c447a835f) https://medium.com/@mariacatt42/how-to-do-your-own-differential-diagnosis-and-why-its-total-bullshit-that-you-would-have-to-461077985659 (https://medium.com/@mariacatt42/how-to-do-your-own-differential-diagnosis-and-why-its-total-bullshit-that-you-would-have-to-461077985659)