In this episode, we’re talking to Lord Victor Adebowale about “System Leadership in health and care” - how is it distinct from organisational leadership?The cross-bench member of the House of Lords and former chief exec of Turning Point comments on the paper 'Systems leadership – a fad, or food for the survival of our NHS?' (Louise Hardy, Associate Professor, Faculty of Medicine and Dentistry, University of Plymouth) - https://bmjleader.bmj.com/content/early/2020/07/26/leader-2019-000167.He tells the Editor of BMJ Leader, James Mountford, how we need to create systems leaders and how systems leadership could contribute to important widespread changes in healthcare.

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