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it was Mark Henry, Tommy dreamer

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and future Hall of Famer Vicki

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James. We're going to talk the

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women's Royal Rumble all the way

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through and the most

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underrated moments of the room. All right.

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It's time for the busted

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open podcast. Your thoughts of the

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women's Royal Rumble. I mean, I

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thought it for me, obviously, I was

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looking forward to it. I thought and I

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personally because you know, I love the women.

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I'm not just saying this, but I thought it was the match.

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One of, you know, one of the best matches of the night,

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probably the match of the night for me, for

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so many reasons, because of the surprises, because

0:53

of Trinity coming back home,

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like, and her showing Bailey.

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I think I've always

1:01

told said, Bailey is my constant.

1:03

Bailey is probably one of my

1:05

favorite wrestlers, female wrestlers ever.

1:07

She's so good. And I think Hunter said it

1:09

best in the press conference when he was talking about

1:11

like, when you are the

1:14

constant sometimes, and when you are

1:16

that person that makes

1:18

everyone shine, you sometimes get

1:20

forgotten about how good you are, how great

1:23

you are, you know, and smooth.

1:26

You think about all the things that she's

1:28

done and all the moments that she's had.

1:30

And I just think that

1:32

she goes under appreciated sometimes in the fans

1:34

eyes, and sometimes even in the office because

1:36

you know that you can she's reliable and

1:38

she's dependable and she is that damn good.

1:42

So it's cool to see her get this moment. I

1:44

think she really deserves it. And I love her. Bailey,

1:46

but yeah, so

1:49

it was cool. It was cool. But to

1:51

see the jade come out her in that

1:53

moment with Naya, you know, to see and

1:55

I was interested to see how I was

1:57

so happy for Jordan and see how the

1:59

fans. were going to react for her, and she was one of

2:01

the few people I think because the

2:05

music specifically – that's a

2:08

whole other conversation, but the people genuinely

2:10

reacted for her. So

2:12

it's cool to see that TNA fanbase

2:15

still there and to pop for her, but then

2:17

that moment with her and Trent, they popped for

2:19

that and they came up for that. So

2:22

it's exciting to see that door

2:24

– I still

2:26

got the key, Tommy. I told you, I kept it. I

2:29

kept hanging on my wall to that door. But

2:32

it's like to see

2:35

that moment happen and to see that

2:37

Jordan in that space, because Jordan's

2:39

the star. She's the megastar.

2:43

A lot of times, people

2:46

like Baylee, who

2:48

trained a lot of the girls and

2:51

worked with them and helped cultivate them at

2:54

NXT, not just from

2:56

a standpoint of getting in the ring

2:59

and wrestling them, but

3:01

technically actually running the

3:03

women's practices and structuring

3:07

their matches, she

3:09

just knows everybody. The

3:11

only other person I could think of right

3:13

now that

3:15

is doing that is Serena Deeb.

3:18

Her and Serena Deeb, they coached

3:20

the girls, like move for move,

3:23

psychology session for psychology session. The

3:26

in-between, right? Yeah,

3:28

all the in-between. I'm so happy to

3:30

see Baylee get

3:33

the respect and shine that

3:35

she deserves, because with

3:38

everybody out there, I guarantee if

3:40

you polled all the women at

3:43

WWE and asked who

3:45

did they look at as the

3:48

best wrestler, Baylee would be

3:50

in the top three for every single woman. Absolutely,

3:53

absolutely. And I think that's why I always like

3:56

when I say Baylee is the best, is

3:58

because of that factor alone. You know, because I

4:02

can see that and you can recognize that, that she

4:04

is the best

4:06

female worker, one of the best female workers on television

4:08

right now, right? Like there's a difference between being –

4:10

and I think that we understand that. Fans

4:12

don't really understand when they're seeing why someone

4:14

is so good when they're at that

4:16

level, right? Like, but we as performers

4:18

and wrestlers understand that.

4:21

And there's some incredible wrestlers,

4:23

and they do incredible things. But

4:26

as far as being able to go out there and tell

4:30

that story with anyone and everyone where everyone

4:32

looks great, that's an art. You

4:35

know, like that's – yeah, and

4:37

so I'm happy for her. I watched The

4:40

Rumble. I loved it, and I said it.

4:42

I put it out there. She's

4:44

a ring general. She's a ring

4:46

general in that Royal

4:49

Rumble. She was

4:51

there for everything, and yes,

4:55

I wanted to say like hard work paid off. And

4:57

the fans are behind her even though her character

5:00

is technically still a heel, and

5:03

she'll have some big decisions

5:05

because if she chooses EO, then

5:07

it's going to be what happens. Damage

5:12

control, but they got all

5:14

the gold right now, and they

5:16

got the key to WrestleMania. But

5:18

her character, even yelling at Michael

5:21

Cole at certain points, I

5:23

thought was awesome. She's so funny. She

5:26

really was a ring general during all of that

5:28

because even there's moments where you're

5:30

not supposed to be doing something, but

5:34

she was doing a little bit something just to

5:36

keep the match. Because there's

5:38

people when I watch, they're just straight watching when

5:40

they're in the Royal Rumble and have

5:42

their head like – they're down crouched

5:45

in a corner. Waiting. And

5:47

they're waiting for the next thing to happen as opposed to,

5:49

no, you're supposed to still be looking like you're in a

5:51

fight, but she had done it the whole time. Where was

5:53

that mentality when I was there, by the way, WWE? I

5:56

thought hard working and putting people out there make everybody

5:58

look good. sons of bitches, you

6:00

think I wouldn't want to want to want to walk. I felt like

6:02

that was my I felt like I did

6:04

that a lot. Yeah. You did that all

6:06

the time, Tommy. What are you talking about? You

6:09

had a lot more success in

6:11

WWE. I

6:13

don't know about the um,

6:16

moments. I thought,

6:18

um, Jordan Grace maximized

6:21

every moment. The

6:24

moment she came out, not only

6:26

looked like she belonged, looked like she

6:28

dominated. Yeah. And I was

6:30

very, very happy. Uh, her

6:33

and Ivy Nile spot with the double

6:35

suplexes I thought was phenomenal.

6:37

Kind of then later on, we

6:39

saw something similar with Jade

6:41

and Bianca having that moment and a

6:43

face off there. That was cool. Nia

6:46

Jax, I thought looked like

6:49

a dominating human being, just

6:51

eliminating everybody. I also thought,

6:54

we got to talk about our truth. Of

6:57

course. In the men's and the

6:59

women. We got

7:01

to talk about our truth

7:03

and we got to talk about, uh, Jordan

7:05

grace. And I think we got some, uh,

7:08

audio. Yeah. And

7:25

yet another surprise. Henry,

7:40

let me tell you about Jordan.

7:43

Great. This woman has mumbled in

7:45

places. You don't even have places.

7:48

That's what I'm looking at here.

7:50

And powerhouse. What a beast. Wow.

7:54

I love that. She's got muscles

7:56

in places where you don't have.

8:00

What do you know about that dream? It

8:04

was awesome, Mickie James. And

8:07

again, maximizing her moments, even her

8:09

elimination was so, so different with

8:12

her and Bianca, and then basically

8:14

taking Bianca's finish on

8:17

the apron I thought

8:20

was insane. And you heard the

8:22

fans were upset that

8:24

Jordan was eliminated. I

8:26

thought – I said this earlier. By

8:30

design, both the men's and the women's

8:33

Royal Rumble, anybody

8:35

could have won it. And

8:38

there was no clear-cut winner. A lot of people did

8:40

have Bayley, but a lot of people had Becky. A

8:42

lot of people had Nia. A lot of people had

8:44

Bianca. I interviewed

8:47

both Bianca and Rhea,

8:50

and Bianca's on the cover of the

8:53

new video game. And

8:55

there was a possibility of having a

8:58

real-life video game match because they're both on

9:00

the cover of the new WWE 2K24. There

9:06

was a lot of great moments in

9:09

that. For you, you had your moment – was it

9:11

last year or the year before? Year

9:14

before. I was injured last

9:16

year. Oh, yeah, that's

9:18

right. You were. That

9:20

was two years ago. But I mean,

9:22

you've been in the ring with so many of them. But

9:27

for being in that Royal Rumble, because it is.

9:29

It's an honor to be in that Royal Rumble. And

9:32

there was a lot of people that were in it.

9:35

But like you, when you saw that, did

9:37

you say, I know who's winning this thing?

9:41

Oh, God, no. I mean, I think I was pulling

9:43

for Bayley. And also the fact that

9:45

she was in there for so long, it kind

9:47

of was like, uh – Over

9:50

an hour. Like 63 minutes? Cardio

9:54

through the roof. Man,

9:56

I would have – I can't. They

9:58

would have had the – Drifter

10:01

an oxygen tanks.

10:05

Her like oxygen the look

10:07

at our than a loser.

10:10

Who. Had a bit heavy hit

10:12

me up with have. Hello

10:14

I'm it of are you take oxygen

10:17

during this show So yeah I noticed

10:19

have he had them like just kind

10:21

of plants it in the ring apron

10:23

assistance of the princess, the snow. Sergeant.

10:26

As in a rematch been jelly

10:28

like a bedsheet, seed pods a

10:30

retirement A big with. Do

10:34

you have a favorite moment of for this year's

10:36

Royal Rumble? For Uma? Am

10:38

I thought live com mean back. And.

10:41

Then her being the one I honestly thought once

10:43

I saw J and like or she might win

10:45

it right has issued debuting first time we're. Seeing

10:48

that, seeing her on, you know,

10:50

in the rain on. And.

10:52

I thought it was awesome on that for lived

10:54

to be the one to eliminate her cousin. Obviously

10:56

that stills. Until possible story there. Ah but there.

10:59

And they were so many elements that was

11:01

really anybody's ballgame as up you know to

11:03

mean that really like you said is anybody

11:05

could a one It. I. Love

11:07

Love Love. The.

11:09

Minimum. Showing.

11:12

Of everybody's faces. Once

11:14

they were eliminated. And. Men

11:17

at the end. There. Was

11:19

a great shot of all for

11:21

women watching. Like. When.

11:24

Barely one and it was just a

11:26

real great. And. When I say deputy

11:28

Read does these things is it really was like.

11:31

The. Agony of defeat. right?

11:34

And I lost. I could have main event

11:36

at Wrestlemania I could have gone to the

11:38

zoo by could have won the been in

11:41

the World series and I lawn in an

11:43

instant the and you saw the though the

11:45

look of the eyes of all the women.

11:47

Just. You know they're all kind of

11:50

light up, spaced ah perfectly and it

11:52

was just like man. everything I wanted

11:54

is gone. I thought that was such.

11:57

A cool but also. Like.

11:59

You know, whenever there's a sporting event,

12:02

That. There's there's jubilation for down when they

12:04

go into the other locker room. And.

12:06

They show you know, people crying

12:08

people down. It's. A thing. Yeah.

12:11

Wrote Making of Thrones week before

12:13

you came on Tommy Now talking

12:15

about. All assholes being

12:17

field and how. Well. Balanced

12:20

and put together. the rumbles

12:22

were. In a shoutout to

12:24

the producers and agents. Their

12:27

their work variables men's and

12:29

women's I am. I.

12:31

Thought it was also. And

12:33

I was see what you thought about. The.

12:38

Cohesiveness that they put it like when

12:40

they all me without. Jordan

12:43

Grace was there and add their

12:45

baby to have their moments and

12:47

then when you know other people

12:49

that would come out. Their.

12:51

Stories connect it like you know

12:53

or damaged controls, whole issue and

12:55

all of them and then you

12:57

lose to a you don't know

13:00

and and you think okay Bally's

13:02

Vitter go out next. Bright.

13:05

Man she went another like

13:08

thirty minutes. The I like

13:10

that is is is incredible Woods would you

13:12

think about the organization of the rumble. The.

13:14

Map well I think. Once asked about

13:17

the production and the way a devotee just

13:19

doesn't right? right? Like they just know

13:21

it at think it's because at that

13:23

level of flag cohesiveness between. The production

13:26

team and the agents in the producers

13:28

and that. They'd. To make

13:30

sure that they get all of these and

13:32

you said it moments, right leg. It's really

13:34

about that, especially for the rumble and for

13:37

Wrestlemania. These key moments because they are defining

13:39

you know of. Like that shot of

13:41

the outset. Now they're going. Just

13:44

my whole dream of going to Wrestlemania has

13:46

gone an instant. Right? Like it's pretty devastating.

13:48

You know, As

13:50

I say when you compare it to like you

13:52

are same time like realize sports and stuff you lose

13:54

the Superbowl, the other issued the one team and they're

13:57

celebrating and everything else in the other team is

13:59

just like devastated because it's like every then you work

14:01

for were all year on. But.

14:03

Yeah, I think it's of as because they create

14:05

those moments right? That. Means you're much.

14:07

In those are the things that the fans. Remember that we

14:10

even remember Go To are those T Mostly

14:12

I remember the matches or the specific eliminations

14:14

and stuff like that. We remember those. Key.

14:17

Moments and then how also. You.

14:20

Can see the out of like okay

14:23

now these people could go into a

14:25

feud are like this story's gonna may

14:27

be go somewhere you can see the

14:29

spark of different stories that are going

14:32

to like kind of catapult off of

14:34

it. Know what's going on is moving

14:36

away from Syria or fifteen years we

14:38

brought it home on how are you

14:41

even more. Hopefully.

14:45

We won't. Nicky.

15:02

Your thoughts of how dubbed or

15:04

he brought Jade. I mean

15:06

we obviously we saw her on little

15:08

shows. we have not seen a movie,

15:11

She. Had to. Are you know I think

15:13

her debut. Was. Perfect for the

15:15

rats were I want to see her

15:17

tape? Yeah, same but your thoughts on

15:19

Jake? Yeah, I you know, obviously because

15:21

there were several speculation because she showed

15:23

up at. Everywhere. As.

15:26

The free agent and where she gonna turn off

15:28

and then we didn't see or or hear from

15:30

her for a minute but I kind of rumble

15:32

with where I want to I thought she. Did

15:34

great I mean for self, like. One

15:36

of my favorite shots of the whole

15:38

night was her daughter. With. Their

15:41

finger out like a few they sought out to the thing

15:43

and you could see her husband and. I think it was

15:45

her husband and her daughter was on her shoulders or whatever

15:47

and have like fingers up in the air and I'm like

15:49

oh my god what a moment's. As a mom

15:51

but. Ah, Yes

15:53

a hell of a place to debut and you

15:55

you know gotta it's of a lot of pressure

15:57

to as a lot of pressure on her to.

16:00

The first I'm Deborah. be audiences seeing our families there

16:02

and then to go and I thought she killed it.

16:04

and with two big eliminations right out of the bat

16:06

you know to mean and like to do so well

16:08

and. Then to have these key moments

16:10

with Naya. With. Bianca And

16:12

just to see how that and the fact that

16:14

the fans responded the way they did on it,

16:16

you know you know that there's. Something.

16:19

There. Something. They are

16:21

and then I will treasure Bus

16:23

pipes Maybe totally makes time and

16:25

like Jay. Is not

16:28

one of those people. Use.

16:30

My the press is not ever going to get the

16:32

her. That when. You

16:34

know when she called me about didn't in

16:36

a wrestler. As the hey

16:39

I want you to go to Indianapolis.

16:42

And. I want you to look

16:44

up this guy. They rip Rogers.

16:47

And our car ribbon as a rip. His

16:50

his see this girl she pretty man but

16:52

you know. Have feel about.

16:55

Everyday look good. A good. I

16:57

was like try to run as off. Beyond

17:01

is that this armoury. Man.

17:06

Grip. Put the gave it a business. And.

17:08

As a boy in this. Rip.

17:13

Was. Shown on how to throw forms. And.

17:15

Uma Rip. He laid

17:18

in man hitter in a bad as

17:20

she stood up and fired up on

17:22

that's all you got and rip call

17:25

me that they hit the hay know

17:27

where you found his love for the

17:29

for a bit Cool man city. And

17:33

yeah, so pressure will affect

17:35

people. That. Don't have that

17:38

saying. The reason that I helped

17:40

her is because she had it.

17:42

Already. Added given door. right?

17:46

Those moments he met at a moment's.

17:49

Tommy. As never those moments that

17:51

I've made Tommy take some ass.

17:53

Weapons. But. When it when

17:56

those fears came up as he started

17:58

looking at the crowd human. The feel

18:00

images year to or I'm like tired

18:02

of a off by such a way

18:05

of what I heard tommy gun bag

18:07

governments ma'am like I'm the me get

18:09

on the bumpers use. The. Yeah,

18:11

cause I knew that that was it was

18:13

meant for that moment. And

18:15

Tommy. Can tell you it is.

18:18

Like. Any bought it as

18:20

watch me watch wrestling. I'm

18:23

cell and I'm kicked him out

18:25

like on the worse as greed

18:27

and mine is the worse for

18:29

your tied with her. Ah ah

18:31

man my job on the monitors

18:33

now the my as make you

18:35

act well I saw it on

18:37

a long as Ah Xian of

18:39

up on the worst the don't

18:42

be close wag reads you are

18:44

not. A photo

18:46

albums you legit or was referencing

18:48

real close to me and Zaid

18:51

is one of those. Bc Low

18:53

Wrestling. See a Me.

18:55

I watched her wrestle with the boys. And.

19:00

Don't take no Briggs. Oh me. Because.

19:02

You can't beat me see with

19:04

receive seeds of at all. I

19:06

had no. Idea that they were

19:09

going to do with a beer with as. But.

19:11

I was very brat. Where

19:14

we rather see has exists. We.

19:16

Talk about moments. And Mickey since

19:18

you were the ah. Last.

19:21

Person out of all three of us to be in

19:23

a royal rumble, right? You have ninety seconds. Ninety.

19:26

Seconds to make. An. Impact.

19:30

Your. Music hits, Pause.

19:32

Pause pause go. Place.

19:35

Erupts. You have to do

19:37

your little entrance. Then. Ah,

19:40

I loved it. You had you biggest battle

19:42

of the night with your ring jacking up

19:44

and a half to get integrity. That's not.

19:47

Even. Saw the back of a jacket. it

19:49

was custom. It was beautiful, is so sparkly

19:51

and gorgeous. And widen my spin and

19:53

do the back shot. See. Cause you were

19:55

freaking out. You has had. I know far

19:58

to go. look how long they had the. That's

20:00

or you the ring and then you gotta do.

20:03

Your. Business? you probably have

20:05

a minute. right?

20:07

To fifty seconds left. To.

20:10

Shine like a diamond. Ah,

20:12

So. I. Feel. If.

20:15

We're maximize in all of our time.

20:17

I look at it. Jordan.

20:19

Grace. Ah,

20:21

Jaded. And who's

20:24

Alina Vega? Maximized all

20:26

their time. That becky

20:28

another person came in and it

20:30

was like oh boy how your

20:32

fire engines there and. Ah,

20:35

I. Feel that those maximizing those moments

20:38

or or or key because you

20:40

know what happens after that. And.

20:43

Ten Nine Eight, Act Your hands

20:45

and everybody else is mom. To

20:48

Go. Like do you feel that Jay did

20:51

that in in the time she was there?

20:53

Oh. Absolutely I thought so. I thought

20:55

so. And I thought the people were

20:57

anticipating her. Com adults, everyone. Was really

21:00

excited one to one of my heart and see

21:02

a hell of a pop and I like her

21:04

entrance was perfect and and her power walk like

21:06

student riots that our strong walk to the rang

21:08

and a stepper time came. In and then

21:10

just kicked ass like I was super impressed

21:12

with Shade and I know. Ah, I

21:16

think it's just the beginning for her. Like

21:18

you said, she's dead. She's just got star

21:20

written all over her like she's just money.

21:22

And ah, I think it was the right

21:24

time and right opportunity. I'm. Almost grateful because I

21:26

like all what a you know if she wins it

21:28

because it. Is her debut and obviously. They're.

21:31

Clearly going to build this woman because

21:34

she is, you know? So just like

21:36

impressive and all the lists. See.

21:39

Is at an anomaly ourselves? Ah

21:41

but as almost like really. I

21:44

love the fact that Live was the one to

21:46

eliminator. kind of like that. was kind of like

21:48

an upset not a know where didn't see, come

21:50

in and then it's ah Plus it was a

21:52

good thing for live because Live obviously just came

21:54

back as well. Ah. Anaconda.

21:56

Gave Jade and out. As for

21:59

not when the. Then they go. Because

22:01

Wrestlemania is huge to especially when you think

22:03

about singles competition. You just got there and

22:05

like this was already a huge huge moment.

22:07

I'd like to see her like with these

22:10

possibilities of heard Naya or you know her,

22:12

Bianca or even her and live First I

22:14

don't really know to give like that time

22:16

on television to to then get the people

22:18

fall in love with her even more. I.

22:21

Have clearly. When. I

22:23

was there broke down, Gabi.

22:25

Debbie We were. There

22:27

are. Competitors.

22:29

And there are attractions isn't And even

22:32

if you think about it, at one

22:34

point, Roman Reigns was just a competitor,

22:36

right? and now he's an attraction. Yeah,

22:39

moment I saw Jade. Said

22:41

Susan attraction yeah, From. The moment

22:43

she stepped out. If you could build

22:46

a job, you to be superstar in

22:48

a lab. You. Would want

22:50

Jade. And I feel that

22:52

they have that. and the sky's the

22:54

limit where they are just on her

22:57

Royal Rumble appearance alone. And like you

22:59

said now it's the next moment for

23:01

her that next moments gonna have to

23:03

be. Wrestlemania. In

23:05

him. And his it's I

23:08

feel it's gonna be really really big

23:10

and. We're. Gonna leave is gonna

23:12

be easy to do. Do Done! Because.

23:15

He has it's uses gotta follow. The.

23:17

The The Brock Lesnar Mole.

23:20

Know. When

23:22

but be giving. Set.

23:25

Your opponent up for their

23:27

success. Very simple.

23:31

And. And there weren't any money matters

23:33

when auto for the have set myself

23:35

up for other people. Taking.

23:38

Bugs over the top to the floor. Mrs.

23:41

Splashes miss with as bombs miss

23:44

and leg drops. Missing

23:47

the the Veda splash out

23:49

of a corner. Are.

23:51

Always set myself up so other

23:53

people to have success. And.

23:57

Is a way that you don't look. Like.

24:00

Somebody else is taking you out.

24:02

And new give it to on. And.

24:04

I am. I'm exposed and too much. but.

24:07

I'm. Just saying. I'm from a standpoint

24:09

of. Had a sick see.

24:12

From. A. Top

24:14

guy. Point

24:16

of view. That's what she's going to have

24:18

to do. And when you to listen, hang

24:20

on. You're not a opposing. it marked you

24:22

live. Did. You. Went from a guy

24:24

who they were trying to kick out. You

24:26

were from a guy who. Came. In

24:29

with a big push wasn't really. Ah,

24:32

Didn't earn it yet. And

24:34

then. You like the light went

24:36

on for you. I was there for it.

24:39

And. Like when you talk about given. Eat.

24:41

How many times you like? Okay, you

24:43

and dreamer. Fourteen. Minutes Tommy's

24:45

allowed to take one bump for you.

24:48

And I be like great. And.

24:50

Did I not want you to take a

24:52

million bumps or me know your purse? I

24:54

did. but you also made me a credible.

24:57

Fighter. Against you the way. Like you said

25:00

when I bought up my fists and I

25:02

would punch you in your the sweat would

25:04

be flying, your hair would be moving. You

25:06

are selling everything that I was given. So.

25:09

Don't discredit or say you're exposing because you

25:11

lived in. That's part of your legacy. That's

25:13

hair was no than. His. Was

25:15

before his baldy. Wow you to

25:17

look like the predators seated? Kick

25:19

me mad at sea? Take me

25:22

load time as you've been everywhere.

25:25

You go to dinner my of fire or other

25:28

you have a good learn how you gotta go

25:30

look in had. Alien. Is

25:32

now like a milk. The. And. I

25:34

will have one or in software like I

25:37

have seen those Franken to love. Your head

25:39

hits. I'll add that to I gotta love the

25:41

head. Shot.

25:43

man I got as i hear that look like

25:45

a sharp a dog bed a day. Like.

25:48

A budget Hot dogs lie. Now that

25:50

the that are I'd it's going off

25:52

the rails. Mickey's obviously back on the

25:54

show with us now. They're not that

25:56

I doubt about that. At their last eleven

25:58

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26:32

I gotta say from

26:34

someone who was very

26:36

responsible for ah, Naomi

26:38

joining. Impact Wrestling! Ah,

26:40

I couldn't have been happier for her

26:42

to have that moment. And.

26:45

I'm sorry she's gone, but I'm

26:47

happy for what she has. She.

26:50

Added to. Ah I'm

26:52

sorry man all these name changes I used

26:54

I finally got said to saying Impact Wrestling

26:56

Now I gotta go back to T in

26:59

A D N A. Are you at at

27:01

a Trinity Now I gotta start say Naomi

27:03

again Edge, Christ and man why stop doing

27:05

this Just letter really have their names Zero

27:07

you can read me out on current you

27:09

would You make mistakes others little make them.

27:12

Banks. Ah, Well.

27:15

She did great in Dna.

27:17

Ah what an addition! To.

27:20

The Knockouts and. Really?

27:23

Gonna miss or was. She

27:26

was awesome I would say. My.

27:29

Biggest higher into Dna but also

27:31

I sell choose one the biggest.

27:34

Acquisitions in T in A.

27:37

In the longest time and I'm talking

27:39

like. I. Put her up there

27:41

with Christian Cage, Kurt Angle. Ah,

27:44

she really did a lot for.

27:47

I didn't hire you Mickey. I'm sorry

27:49

I know it's all about you

27:52

but I hope your and By

27:54

helps you in adobe moment and

27:56

Dna. Is the mic on

27:58

around you worked with their you worked. But

28:00

you saw a different Naomi

28:03

while she was in TNA. Yes, yeah.

28:07

I can't tell you how happy

28:10

I am for her, not just for the

28:12

return at the Rumble, but just for this

28:15

whole year, like this whole time

28:17

of her going away, not

28:20

hearing or seeing from her wondering what was going

28:22

to be next, her showing up to impact in

28:24

the journey she's had there. And

28:26

she did it for her, right? Like she

28:29

did that for her, and I

28:32

think she was able to prove to herself

28:34

and prove to the fans, not that she

28:36

needed to prove anything to anyone. But

28:38

if that – you know what I mean? Like I think that that

28:40

body of work over the last year and everything else in this –

28:43

I beg to differ. You

28:46

do got to prove it. You got to prove

28:48

it to the fans. We all – I think we all feel that,

28:50

yeah. And you got

28:53

to prove it to your boss, where

28:55

the bill – like who paid – who

28:57

sends the check? You

29:00

got to prove to them that you

29:02

are deserving of what you asked

29:04

for. Yes, you're right. And

29:06

sometimes you got to go away to

29:09

make them see it, to show people how

29:12

good you were, and

29:16

also to develop confidence

29:20

without the other, to

29:22

prove to them, damn, I didn't need

29:24

them to be successful. I

29:27

am successful. Vince told me that a long time ago.

29:30

Right. He was like, I

29:33

want you to go to Canada because

29:37

the heat is on and

29:39

you need to learn how to exist in

29:41

the locker room. Not to

29:44

mention you'll learn

29:46

wrestling. You got to learn

29:48

wrestling. And

29:53

learning wrestling is not just learning

29:55

how, but you

29:57

got to learn where, when, and why.

30:00

Why? But in that process of learning

30:03

where, when and why, you

30:05

have to develop a level of confidence that

30:09

the Undertaker is not that much better than me.

30:13

Ray Mysterio is not that much better than me.

30:18

I love Kane and Big Show, but they're not that much

30:20

better than me. Shit,

30:23

let me get out there. You got to

30:25

develop your own self-confidence in wrestling. Yeah. You

30:28

know, and I think that could be tested a lot. You already

30:30

have naked. Yeah. If

30:33

you can stand in front of folks without

30:35

your clothes on, then you

30:37

should be there. Right.

30:39

But that's not the case. And

30:42

I think Naomi, when

30:44

she got away, she

30:47

realized who she really was.

30:51

Sasha or

30:53

Mercedes, she knows who

30:56

she is. She developed it and got it

30:58

sooner, but

31:00

Naomi didn't. Now, the

31:03

Naomi that we're about to see, the

31:06

matches that she's going to have, watch

31:09

the difference. Yeah. Watch

31:11

the difference. She's not going

31:13

to just, you know, dumb it down. Yeah,

31:15

I think that, too, I don't

31:18

know because the business tests

31:20

our confidence all the

31:22

time. All the time. Still,

31:24

you know, even for me, even still, like

31:27

I just, I feel like it constantly tests you

31:29

or ask you because we're competitive by nature and

31:31

we demand a lot out of ourselves. I

31:34

think, too, like, Trinh

31:36

is a very humble, genuine,

31:39

just good soul and wonderful person.

31:41

I think she's so giving and

31:44

so thoughtful for other people

31:46

and other things that maybe

31:50

it's that same kind of thing with, like, when

31:53

we were talking about Bailey earlier, like, where she

31:55

is a constant, you know, she's been put in

31:58

positions and she'd always have, like, these moments. and

32:00

these different things, but maybe feeling

32:02

like, well, I wasn't getting the opportunities

32:04

in that aspect. And I'm

32:07

glad she chose impact and not just –

32:10

I'm glad she chose TNA on many

32:12

levels because for

32:14

me, not only because just going off my own career

32:18

and my success of going there and being

32:20

able to be creative and be

32:23

myself and have that power to

32:25

kind of feel who

32:27

this is and reestablish yourself.

32:31

But the locker room and everyone there

32:33

wants everyone to win, right? So

32:36

it's just such a great atmosphere, especially

32:38

when you're growing and you're in that

32:41

kind of space. And for the

32:43

women especially, for the knockouts, I mean.

32:45

So was Fit Finley. Yes.

32:48

Fit Finley never had a bad match. Never.

32:52

Fit Finley knew how to do everything. His

32:57

psychology was equal to

32:59

anybody at WWE. He

33:03

did his job until

33:05

it was time for him to go

33:07

and be Fit Finley. Naomi

33:11

didn't know how to do that. She

33:14

had to leave to learn how. Now

33:17

she's back. You put a reminder self,

33:19

yeah. And what a performance. What

33:22

a performance in the Rumble lasting well over

33:24

an hour. My

33:26

favorite part and stuff that I told – she

33:28

had the same reaction when she debuted in TNA

33:31

where she put her hands over her face

33:33

because she started to cry. And

33:36

the same thing happened. And the

33:38

beauty of wrestling fans is we

33:40

appreciate your hard work. We

33:43

are happy that you're back. And

33:45

there's 48,000 people showing her

33:47

love and feeling the glow. And it's another great

33:49

moment for her, which will have more great moments.

34:00

And now, in the back of the house,

34:02

you're going to see a positive open

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Uncle Fully, downloading on Apple and GORAP,

34:20

or wherever you get your podcasts. What

34:23

did the SmackDown General Manager

34:26

think of his side and

34:28

representation of the entire Royal

34:30

Rumble? Did he like it? I

34:33

just was his first Royal Rumble. He was there

34:35

for the first time, obviously, so I was

34:37

so happy for him, and he was very,

34:39

very excited. I thought he was very happy

34:41

with his showing, including the four-way, because he

34:43

kind of set that match up. Although

34:45

I don't know that he wanted Roman

34:47

to win. We don't talk about these matters at

34:49

the house sometimes. I hear you. It's

34:54

good not to answer those questions, though. Yeah, I was

34:56

like, oh, who did you want to win, babe? You

34:59

just want to come home. Nicky's like,

35:01

can you put on these gloves so

35:03

we can push a chicken's butt back

35:06

in? Yeah, look, I got some

35:08

Vaseline and some Q-tips. Apparently, we have

35:10

to put this back in. Damn! Stop

35:12

this. Oh,

35:14

my God, you're too much. Let me

35:17

talk about it. How

35:19

about we talk about the most

35:21

understated things that happened at the night? Understated,

35:24

underrated things that happened

35:26

in this both Royal Rumbles that were just awesome.

35:28

So, Tommy, you go first. Star of the Night.

35:31

You're the principalities today. Who, me? What

35:35

was your thing? Oh. No,

35:37

go, Nicky, first. I was going to say,

35:40

for me, person, star of

35:42

the night is our truth. For

35:45

like the running out in the

35:47

women's rumble, but then the thing

35:50

there and then the hot tag

35:52

into the Royal Rumble, I was

35:54

instantly dying. And saving J.D. McDonough

35:56

from being thrown out. What

36:00

are you doing? I

36:02

mean, just like all of that, man, I'm telling

36:05

you our truth. Like we had him on the

36:07

show. He, he's just a national treasure. Y'all. I

36:09

don't know how else to put it. He is

36:11

God's gift to wrestling. The, uh,

36:14

he, the, uh,

36:17

digital they showed with him and, uh,

36:19

Adam Pierce

36:22

is even funnier. You got to find it where

36:24

he asked about where his hair went. And

36:27

then he goes, that's Nick.

36:30

Eddie goes, Nick Mysterio, dude,

36:32

it was so, and it was right in the back.

36:34

Like as he's bringing him in the back was

36:37

so good. Um, oh my goodness

36:39

gracious, man. There

36:43

are so many moments that were like

36:45

just, like

36:47

you said, underrated. We don't have enough time

36:49

to talk about them. Uh,

36:52

Chelsea green green. We

36:55

didn't get it. Tommy thing. He

36:58

wished where she, uh,

37:01

I saw so many memes of like, when

37:03

people like would've been crushed on movies that

37:05

she'd just been flat her and

37:07

her selling. Even how, when we

37:09

talk about maximizing moments, her coming

37:11

to the ring, almost that eliminating

37:14

cause she got eliminated the last, I was like, Oh, they're

37:16

going to do this again to her, which I thought was

37:18

great. And, uh, then her

37:21

and Piper, when she got eliminated, Piper catches her.

37:23

And then you think that Piper is going to

37:25

drop her. Uh, and

37:27

it's been one year for her

37:29

debut in the Royal Rumble. And I thought

37:31

she's done, it's been a great year for her.

37:33

It's been an incredible year for her, you

37:36

know, because more of a character and

37:38

then given her opportunity to rep. She's

37:40

another person I could see as a

37:42

general manager of any brand

37:44

in WWE, just because of how good

37:46

she is, but her performance as well,

37:48

where, um, she was just like flat

37:51

and dead so many different times.

37:54

Oh my God. When, when, when

37:57

Nyla Phil on her. When

38:00

I had Jack fell on it, I just

38:02

said, Lord, this is too much. I can

38:05

hardly breathe. I had to hit this with

38:07

my oxygen. Yeah. We

38:11

got any else moments?

38:14

The other part, the hot tag, I thought that was

38:16

brilliant. I could not. And then

38:18

the fact how everybody got it. The place

38:21

erupted when he made the tag.

38:24

When he started clapping, it was like it was

38:26

a tag match. Could

38:29

not. The tag happened, and

38:32

it was a, oh, man. I

38:34

mean, Bobby Heaton. Oh,

38:37

man. It

38:39

was a babyface fire. Yeah, Rock

38:41

and Roll Express, baby. Baby.

38:45

Oh, my God, baby. It was so good. And

38:48

even when he came in doing

38:50

all of John Cena's moves, and

38:52

even how it's like the commentators

38:54

bite in. His

38:56

favorite wrestler growing up as a kid,

38:59

everyone bites into the R-Truth. I mean, he

39:02

is a guy. He looks good.

39:05

He moves still great. He's

39:07

the same age as us and

39:09

still moving and grooving and entertaining

39:11

the best way possible. I mean,

39:13

God, so entertaining. Yeah.

39:16

I thought Baylee, her

39:18

commentary back and forth with

39:21

Michael Cole was pretty

39:23

damn ingenious. Yeah.

39:26

You want some of this, Cole? Like,

39:29

what are you talking about? And she was like,

39:31

you know you want to get in here. I'm

39:34

just like going back and forth. It was so

39:36

good. Another moment with

39:38

Pat McAfee. They're also talking

39:40

about Pat had no clue he

39:42

was in it. This is

39:45

reports that are coming back, and he was totally

39:47

caught off guard with all

39:49

of that. Though maybe saving

39:51

a roster spot for someone else,

39:55

but doing that on the fly

39:57

and not telling the person that you're in

39:59

the actual. Rumble that's you know

40:01

me that's the Jerry Lawler spot you take

40:03

off the stuff you get bounced back out

40:06

And then you go right back to headset,

40:08

but he was smart though You

40:12

know actually getting in played

40:14

it like a problem about it and

40:16

get back out Though

40:19

he could have punted almost right in the

40:21

nuts give the biggest kick he ever had

40:23

right They've gotten one of

40:26

them for sure yeah, then just almost no

40:28

cells and be like sorry time to die

40:32

Here mom, it's 12 o'clock. I moved them

40:38

He could do the pie made gimmick Got

40:44

a minute to tell us kill bill

40:48

Pie made could move

40:50

his stuff out of the way There

40:53

was only there was only a certain amount

40:55

of time during the day that he relaxed

40:58

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41:01

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