In this episode, Lee and Ryan spend time with Amao, a proud Fa'afafine who uses the pronouns she/her/diva. Amao talks about the importance of cultural identity, her advocacy work, self-acceptance, love, shifts in language, and laying the foundations for future generations of trans and gender diverse folk. She generously shares her experiences and insights with us, and does so with both humor and grace. Just a note on audio: this conversation was recorded in a cafe, so there is a bit of background noise. We've done our best to minimize it, but you might need to turn the volume up for this episode!