Meet Nicolas Vandenberghe, the CEO of Chili Piper. In this episode, Nicholas joins Justin to discuss the two catalysts that led to him eventually founding Chili Piper -- first getting, as he says, screwed over by Oracle while he was CIO at LightSquared, and then being put out of business by Salesforce with his then-company, Floating Apps.

Alone and self-funded, Nicolas harnessed a "bull's eye" marketing strategy to quickly close $1 million in revenues within Chili Piper's first 18 months. He and Justin discuss how Chili Piper has bootstrapped and continued to double year-over-year, as well as risk-taking in the time of COVID-19.