Kelli Swazey talks to Matt about how and why she made her way to Indonesia where she's spent the past decade working in education, religious diversity, and cross-cultural studies. As her TedX bio says, "Swazey believes biodiversity and cultural diversity are inexorably linked. Her work insists we can't protect one without defending the other."

Interestingly, Kelli and Matt knew each other briefly growing up. In the summers, Kelli would travel from Maine to Western New York, where she would visit her grandparents for a few weeks. Matt was friends with the kid next door to her grandparents, so they would spend those few weeks having bonfires, jumping on trampolines, and just hanging out like kids do.

The short documentary Kelli co-directed and produced in 2018 about  climate change and culture in the Sama Bajau community in Southeast Sulawesi, Our Land is the Sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI3ubl4vTE8

Kelli's recent TEDxTalk at TedxUbud: How biodiversity and cultural diversity are inexorably linked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzCWcJT5m3c

Kelli's Instagram where she posts a lot of mini essays about the projects she's working on:
https://www.instagram.com/kelli_swazey/

Music in this episode by Verified Picasso, MK2, and DJ Williams

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