Esther and Holly bring grace and truth to so many conversations surrounding Christian leadership. This podcast is one of my "must listen to" podcasts to stay connected to conversations that I may otherwise be unmindful of or out-of-touch with (#momlife). She and Holly bring their delightful friendship to the table while tackling hard conversations with guests who we can identify with (hey, I'm not the only one!) and learn so much from. Whether you consider yourself a leader or not, if you love Jesus and people, this podcast is for you! I walk away from every episode with my mind expanded and my heart expanded ready to give more grace to myself and to those in my sphere of influence.