We’re making a list (and checking it twice) of 2018’s biggest climate stories, with the help of Vox reporter David Roberts. Roberts notes that while President Trump’s continued rollbacks of environmental protections made the news, the Green New Deal and ongoing decline in costs of clean energy technologies are the year’s big stories. For other parts of the country, wildfires and other extreme weather events made the biggest headlines. Greg Dalton talks to some of California’s leading wildfire experts about how to adapt to the “new abnormal” of more intense and more frequent wildfires.

Guests (in order of appearance):David Roberts, Staff Writer, VoxJ. Keith Gilles, Chair, California Board of Forestry and Fire Protection; Professor of Forest Economics, UC BerkeleyMaggi Kelly Professor and Cooperative Extension Specialist in the Environmental Science, Policy and Management Department, UC BerkeleyThom Porter, Chief of Strategic Planning, California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices