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Show Notes

• 02:09 – Meet Kelly! 
• 03:05 – Kelly talks true crime | WGN Radio 
• 07:21 – It takes a balance - you need the 'yes' people and the naysayers to keep you from making crappy decisions
• 08:36 – The first step to changing your firm's culture - you've gotta know you have a problem! 
• 10:21 – Speaking of problems, we talk about the melee surrounding audit watchdog, PCAOB, and KPMG | WSJ 
• 10:52 – We humans tend to take a one-dimensional viewpoint when it comes to fraud
• 12:53 – You can't rely on people's personal perceptions. You have to show them concrete examples of ethical lapses to paint a really clear picture
• 13:51 – How do we remove the incentives for unethical behavior?
• 16:02 – Ethics training needs to focus on real-life, practical scenarios that actually relate to the people involved
• 18:27 – When you’re talking about a company with hundreds of thousands of employees, ethical issues are critical!
• 20:54 – Financial relationships, in any profession, can create a perverse incentive to ‘look the other way’ 
• 23:36 – What your expense reports really say about you | WSJ
• 23:59 – Kelly’s required ethics and fraud reading/listening list includes the docuseries, “Dirty Money”, a podcast called The Dropout, and John Carreyrou’s book, “Bad Blood” 
• 25:56 – Kelly gives us a brief synopsis of her film, “All The Queen’s Horses” | YouTube
• 29:04 – While she uses film as a teaching platform, Kelly has no plans to make more films. 

Connect with Kelly

• Kelly Richmond Pope
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-richmond-pope-cpa-83689a5/
  • Twitter: https://twitter.com/kellyrpope
  • Kelly's TEDx Talk https://www.ted.com/talks/kelly_richmond_pope_how_whistle_blowers_shape_history/up-next%3E
  • All the Queen's Horses - Website: https://www.allthequeenshorsesfilm.com/
  • All the Queen's Horses - YouTube: https://youtu.be/dpr2A3S3CNk

Episode Art Photo Credit: 

• April Blankenship
  • https://twitter.com/aprilblnknshp
  • https://twitter.com/aprilblnknshp/status/1187023281687130112/photo/2

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