What would motivate an atheist to pray?  Is "everything fair" in war?  Is there room for compassion and grace in a combat zone?

Jerry Dugan and I connected through Facebook and I was invited to be on his podcast Beyond the Rut that he hosts with Brandon Cunningham.  I was struck by the humility and presence of both gentlemen.  I invited Jerry to come to the table but had a vague idea of why outside of a tug at my heart.  This is by far one of the most revealing and amazing conversations I've been a part of during this journey.  I'm so grateful to Jerry for his honesty, authenticity and transparency.

Love in action is listening to understand, not to react.

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A special thanks to the musical talent of our friend and guest of the show David HaLevy for writing and performing the sound to our intro and outgoing music.  Check out the Ruach Guitar Facebook Page he makes by hand and plays as well as on Instagram.   We are very humbled and grateful for this personal touch to the show and cherish it greatly.   תודה David!

Thanks to YouTuber Ryennyte for applying his editing skills to the audio and cleaning it up for us.  You can find and subscribe to his YouTube Channel here.  Proud of my son as he's actually learning about working through this opportunity...he's always very talented at script writing, editing audio and video software and video effects.  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDGGfMs8evTpUW2NfRykgMg

Special thanks to Chris Huskins for suggesting a standing approach to recording the pod which I love now!

Click below to hear an audiogram from the episode and hear a tidbit from the conversation.