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I had this dream. I heard
0:38
a knock on the door. And
0:41
I opened the door
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and there stands Britney in
0:46
this black t shirt with
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her blue jean cut
0:51
off shorts. and flip flops.
0:54
And I looked down and I seen my dog,
0:57
nala. And I was
0:59
just like, Pretty,
1:01
you're here. And she
1:03
said, I'm scared. I'm
1:05
scared of the stall. And I
1:07
said, why are you scared? That's
1:10
not a lie. I said, she's
1:11
a great dog. You don't have to be
1:13
scared. she looks
1:15
at me and Britney had the
1:17
prettiest blue eyes. And
1:20
she looked at me and she said, I'm
1:23
okay, Sam.
1:25
I'm okay.
1:26
And she said, I have to go now.
1:28
I was like, please
1:30
don't leave it. She said, say, I gotta
1:32
go. At
1:35
first, I thought she was
1:37
scared of my dog. But
1:40
if she was scared of my dog, why was my
1:42
dog sitting right beside her sitting
1:45
there. I don't think
1:47
that she was scared of my dog.
2:20
As
2:20
Jessica and I drive through Brown County,
2:23
Ohio IO, going over the list of people
2:25
we need to speak with, and the avenues
2:27
we need to explore. And I ask
2:29
all my early naive questions, and
2:31
she educates me. I have a moment
2:33
where I realize how unique of a position
2:35
we're in here. Because while we
2:37
are working on this together, At the
2:39
same time, we're able to come at this
2:41
from two different angles. I'm
2:43
not from here. I come into this
2:45
with no preconceived notions, no
2:47
intimate not knowledge. No, nothing
2:49
really. I'm an outsider. The
2:52
people here have been very welcoming, but
2:54
I've seen the stairs. I get it.
2:57
On the other hand, our producer, Jessica,
3:00
is a local, an insider. She
3:02
knows a lot about the case. She's been
3:04
following for years and the locals
3:06
don't tend to stare at her. They'd rather
3:09
talk to her about the case. I guess
3:11
what I'm getting at is there's perks to having
3:13
both and from our position
3:16
or more accurately positions, I
3:18
genuinely believe we can help make a difference
3:20
in this case. we're gonna take
3:22
a step back and move slowly. Start
3:25
with those who knew Britney Best and
3:27
branch out from there. We've already
3:29
spoken with a family, The Dodson And
3:32
now, we head to the town of Aberdeen
3:34
to speak with someone who was very close to
3:36
Brittany, especially in her
3:38
final years and also on
3:40
her final day.
3:44
We pull off a narrow winding road
3:46
and carefully squeeze into a small gravel drive
3:48
way next to a silver minivan with
3:51
a familiar looking decal of a winged
3:53
heart on the back window. A
3:55
short sidewalk leads up to the front porch
3:58
of the two story where we knock on
3:59
an ornately carved front door. Second
4:02
later, we hear a voice coming from around
4:05
the side of the house. It's Britney's
4:07
friend, Samantha Rutherford.
4:09
You guys think I'm the side. Oh, hey. Hi.
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Wearing a pair of cropped jeans and a black
4:15
t shirt, she nervously tucks her
4:17
dark shoulder length hair behind her ears as
4:19
she welcomes us inside and guides
4:21
us to her living room. As
4:23
we take our spots on the sofa, Samantha
4:25
begins to talk with her hands, and a
4:27
tattoo on her wrist is revealed. It
4:30
matches that de calon her van. a
4:32
winged heart. And there's a banner
4:34
just below with Britney's name. She
4:37
starts telling us about her career in Long enforcement,
4:40
how she got into it pretty late in life,
4:42
and how Britney played a factor on that.
4:45
When Britney was murdered, I
4:47
couldn't wrap my mind
4:49
around it. I was just like, you know, she's
4:52
just this fun, loving,
4:55
joyful person. whose
4:57
life was taken too soon.
4:59
I didn't understand as an
5:02
outsider, like, why
5:04
weren't they figuring this out? Why why haven't you
5:06
guys solve this? You know, what what's going on?
5:09
I wanted to be able to help
5:11
people, you know, who are in
5:13
bad situations and be
5:16
a light to somebody.
5:20
Samantha was a police chief in Russellville,
5:22
Ohio for a spell. Now,
5:25
she's an officer in the neighboring town of
5:27
Sardinia. But before Samantha
5:29
found her career, she was just a
5:31
girl working at Walmart. She went to
5:33
high school with Britney, but they hardly
5:35
knew each other. That quickly
5:37
changed when the two of them started working
5:39
together.
5:41
we both applied at
5:43
Walmart. We got hired in
5:45
together and we started talking and
5:48
we started having our lunches together
5:51
and we just got super,
5:54
super close. And she
5:56
told me later on,
5:58
she was like, you know, in high school,
6:01
I thought you were a
6:03
b word. And I was like, really?
6:05
She was like, yeah. And I was like,
6:07
oh, man. That sucks. Samantha
6:10
never got hung up on the why.
6:13
High school was in the past now. She
6:15
was just happy that Britney gave her another chance.
6:18
because this time they hit it off instantly.
6:22
Her laugh was just infectious
6:25
and when
6:27
she laughed. It was
6:29
like a laugh from
6:31
her stomach, from her heart. When
6:34
she smiled, she smiled with her eyes.
6:37
her personality was
6:39
just she
6:42
was who she said she was and
6:45
She was proud of who she was.
6:48
Britney was very protective of her people
6:50
that
6:50
she loved,
6:51
and If you were in
6:53
the wrong, she would tell you you were in the wrong.
6:56
And she stood up
6:58
for people when nobody else
7:00
would.
7:03
Britney
7:03
stood up not just for others, but
7:05
for herself too. Samantha
7:07
had seen it firsthand. She
7:09
tells us a story involving Britney's boyfriend
7:11
at the time. who also worked with them.
7:15
Her boyfriend at
7:16
the time had
7:19
cheated on her or something. he
7:21
come in one day and she
7:24
wasn't there. He worked in the tire and loop part,
7:26
and she wasn't there. She was off
7:28
that day. And I said, Dusty,
7:30
I said, what happened to your eye? He
7:32
said Britney blacked it. He was
7:34
like, I swear to you, she did. So
7:37
I called Britney, and I said,
7:39
Did
7:39
you black Dusty's eye? She
7:42
said,
7:43
yes, I did. She said, and
7:45
if he's gonna talk shit,
7:47
She said, I'll be out there. She said, I'll block the other
7:49
eye.
7:49
I was like, oh my gosh.
7:53
And she said, To
7:55
no surprise, the young couple went their
7:57
separate ways. It's our understanding
8:00
that he was pretty upset about the breakup.
8:02
but Britney had made up her mind. She
8:05
was ready to move on. And
8:07
quickly, she did. His
8:10
name was Shane Stikes. He and
8:12
Britney met at the local subway where
8:14
she worked before moving to Walmart. Shane
8:17
would often drop in and eat, and he
8:19
and Britney would chat. It was
8:21
all casual. Britney was dating her
8:23
former boyfriend at the time. But
8:26
later, she took that job at Walmart,
8:28
and then the breakup happened. It
8:31
wasn't long before Shane asked
8:33
her out, and the two started dating.
8:36
Shane was just a I
8:39
don't know. Like, he
8:41
was a biker. He was
8:44
funny. That's
8:46
it.
8:48
My first impressions.
8:51
Samantha is oddly reserved
8:54
when it comes to Shane, but we
8:56
chose not to pry and instead
8:58
switch the subject. because around
9:00
the same time, shortly after Shane
9:02
entered the picture, there was another
9:04
big chain in Britney's life. Samantha
9:06
says it all started one day at work.
9:10
Britney
9:10
walked in and I
9:12
was at the podium giving somebody a break.
9:15
And it was like, she
9:17
was glowing. Britney was
9:19
this.
9:20
She was so pasting white.
9:21
I mean, I felt like she
9:24
glowed in the dark.
9:25
but she come walking in and she was
9:28
literally glowing. And I was
9:30
like, come
9:31
here for a second. I said, you're
9:34
pregnant. She was like, no, I'm
9:36
not. And I said, Britney,
9:38
I'm telling you, you're pregnant.
9:40
Is she just, you know, no, I'm not. No, I'm
9:42
not. Don't say that. And
9:44
I said, take a pregnancy test. She
9:46
was like, only if you take one with me. And I
9:48
was like, okay. So we go to
9:51
the bathroom. after
9:53
work, and we
9:55
do the pregnancy test. And
9:58
I hear Britney Oh,
9:59
no. No. Like,
10:02
crying and I'm over there laughing.
10:04
I'm like, I told you. I told you. I
10:06
told you. and
10:08
that's how we found out she was pregnant with Aubrey.
10:11
And
10:12
wouldn't you know it? Britney
10:15
wasn't natural. She made it look
10:17
so easy. Oh my
10:18
goodness. Britney
10:21
was tough as nails when
10:23
she gave birth to Aubrey
10:26
She had no medicine
10:29
at all. She was
10:31
bound and determined to have a
10:33
natural birth. And when she
10:35
had Aubrey, she
10:37
was just, like, over
10:39
the hills for her. I mean, she
10:41
just she was so kind in
10:43
nurturing to her and,
10:45
you know, watching Aubrey
10:48
get bigger with Britney, it was
10:50
awesome because Aubrey
10:53
was
10:53
Britney's best friend. She
10:55
loved that little girl to pieces,
10:58
loved her. to
11:00
do anything for her.
11:03
As we
11:04
continued our conversation about Aubrey,
11:07
eventually, Samantha explained
11:09
why she didn't have a lot to say about Shane
11:11
earlier. She says her opinion of him
11:13
changed over time. It started
11:15
around the time of Aubrey's first birth day.
11:17
By this time, Britney and Shane were
11:19
married. We
11:20
were actually at Aubrey's first
11:24
birthday party and Britney
11:27
went all out. Like,
11:29
Britney and Mary are so creative
11:31
with everything. They can
11:33
turn nothing into something. And
11:36
Britney decided that she wanted to do
11:38
it was like a carnival petting
11:42
zoo type birthday for Aubrey's first
11:44
birthday. Like, it had to be big.
11:47
And she asked me to
11:49
come down and help her, and I was, like, Absolutely.
11:51
So I came down and Britney
11:53
was painting something
11:56
on this piece of plywood. You stick
11:58
your face through. It was like an animal or something
12:00
like that. But anyhow,
12:02
I told Britney, I said,
12:04
you're pregnant.
12:06
And she was like,
12:07
shut
12:08
the hell up. I am not
12:11
pregnant. And I said,
12:13
Britney, said I told you the first time you're
12:15
pregnant. I'm telling you you're pregnant
12:17
now.
12:17
she calls me a
12:20
couple days later, and she was like,
12:22
I'm pregnant. And I'm like, oh
12:24
my gosh. I told you that's
12:25
amazing. know, I'm so excited. And
12:28
she was like, Shane's
12:30
gonna be super upset.
12:33
and I said, why
12:34
Shane gonna be upset? She
12:37
was, like, because he told me he doesn't want
12:39
any more kids. And
12:41
I said, well, I mean, there's
12:43
nothing you can do about it now. Aubrey's
12:46
birthday was in June, but Samantha
12:49
says news of baby number two was
12:51
kept secret until sometime in August
12:53
right before the annual Tobacco
12:55
Festival, which Britney was always very
12:57
involved in. This is when her
12:59
opinion of Shane worsened. Two
13:01
weeks before the Tobacco
13:03
Festival, Britney
13:05
called me and
13:06
it was late at night. And
13:08
she was
13:09
it
13:10
couldn't breathe, like, crying and
13:12
I was like, Britney, what's wrong? Like,
13:15
honey, you you've gotta stop crying. Tell me what's wrong.
13:17
Like, do you need me? Do I need to
13:19
come get you? And she
13:21
is like, Shane
13:23
Love I told him that I was
13:25
pregnant and he said that
13:28
he didn't want any more kids
13:30
and was throwing stuff
13:32
and and cussing me out
13:34
and and he took off and he left. And
13:36
she was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
13:39
And I'm like, it's gonna be
13:41
okay.
13:41
Like, you're gonna be okay.
13:50
I
13:54
was mad at Shane because at
13:59
this
13:59
time, Britney, you know, she was
14:02
twenty two years old. And I
14:06
think he was, like, thirty six or thirty
14:08
seven. Shane
14:11
knew when he got with Britney.
14:13
that she
14:13
wanted kids.
14:17
And he had already had two kids
14:19
of his own. you
14:21
know, Britney wanted kids and she loved kids
14:23
and she took very good care
14:25
of Aubrey, not only Aubrey,
14:28
but Gauge and Bubba, his
14:30
two kids. So
14:33
I wasn't
14:34
happy with him because he was, you know,
14:37
he was mattered her being
14:39
mean to her because
14:40
she was pregnant.
14:43
Samantha says there were times that Britney expressed
14:45
some frustration with Shane. you just
14:48
normal couple stuff. But apart from
14:50
that, she really didn't know much about the
14:52
relationship. Britney kept that
14:54
to herself. but Britney's
14:56
parents, Mary and Dave,
14:58
did have some insight into the relationship.
15:00
And they too say
15:02
that Britney started opening more. When
15:04
she learned she was pregnant with her second
15:07
child. She sent
15:09
out in the out there in my garage with me in
15:11
the office and she cried and cried.
15:13
And she said, and I said, honey, you're going to
15:15
get find out what the baby is here
15:17
within a week or two. And then you're
15:19
gonna have to tell him, And she
15:21
just said, dad, you just don't know what he's
15:23
gonna do to me when he finds out I'm pregnant.
15:25
He says, he wasn't happy
15:27
about the first one. And
15:29
I saw Honey, I'll go tell him
15:32
maybe, you know, it's not a big deal.
15:35
Britney came here And
15:37
out of the blue, she just looked over and she
15:40
says, don't let him raise
15:42
her. She says, mom,
15:44
She says, I want you guys you
15:46
to raise Aubrey the way I was
15:48
raised. Don't want I don't want Shane and his
15:50
mother raising my daughter. Why
15:53
would Britney say something like this? Was
15:55
she concerned that something might happen to
15:57
her? That she wouldn't be able to raise her
15:59
daughter? maybe she was just
16:01
speaking generally, emphasizing that
16:03
she wants her parents to have a lot of say
16:05
and how her kids are raised.
16:07
After all,
16:08
Mary says that Britney and Aubrey were at their house
16:10
every day, and they were constantly
16:12
helping take care of Aubrey. There's
16:14
no telling what she meant. And looking back,
16:17
Mary and Dave aren't really sure what to make
16:19
of it. Mary says at the
16:21
time she thought maybe Britney was
16:23
considering a divorce or something. She knew
16:25
Britney was upset because Shane would get up at
16:27
five AM, leave for work, and not
16:29
come home until she was in bed asleep.
16:31
And Britney even alluded to this
16:33
when she called Shane that day She
16:35
called him and she
16:37
had it on speakerphone.
16:38
And she told him,
16:41
she says, I
16:42
know you don't wanna spend time with me, but she
16:44
obviously spent some time with your daughter.
16:47
And and he
16:49
said, she can get her shit and
16:51
the
16:51
baby shit and get out and pay I'll pay
16:53
child support on another one. And
16:57
I
16:57
looked at her, and she looked at me, and
16:59
I said, what are you gonna do? She
17:02
says, I'm gonna go inform him he'll be getting
17:04
paid child support on two
17:06
kids. As
17:07
we know, Per Samantha's account of
17:10
this, breaking the news to Shane
17:12
did not go well. He left
17:14
the house, and Britney devastated
17:16
by what had transpired, called
17:17
her mom. She's
17:19
calling me crying, hysterical.
17:23
that hysterical. couldn't hardly breathe,
17:25
didn't know what to do. And I
17:27
said, Britney, I said, you got two
17:29
options. You either get that baby
17:31
and you come home now I
17:33
said, oh, you lay there and see what
17:35
the morning
17:35
brings. She hears mama don't wanna wake the
17:37
baby. And I said, Britney,
17:39
it doesn't matter. I'll put her back to whatever. She goes,
17:41
no.
17:41
He's left. He's gone. I think I'm just
17:44
gonna lock the door and I'm gonna
17:46
stay. And I said, okay. Well, not
17:48
I didn't know this, but she called her friend and
17:50
was on the phone with
17:53
her all night, I
17:55
guess, hysterical.
17:55
hysterical After Britney
17:58
got off the phone with Samantha, she
18:00
went to sleep, and that was the end of that
18:02
night. But Mary actually
18:04
saw Britney and Shane the next
18:06
day. They showed up at the house some time in the afternoon.
18:08
And he
18:09
walks straight through my kitchen, into
18:12
the den to the computer. and
18:14
Britney's standing there in the kitchen with
18:16
me and she's whispering and
18:19
she says, She says something's
18:22
not right. Then I said, well,
18:23
you mean something's not right? She
18:26
said,
18:26
he stayed all night at his
18:28
marks. She said, last
18:31
night, I hit the
18:32
fan. And then this morning, he comes home
18:34
from his small arms. and
18:36
it's like a switch went off. And
18:39
he's
18:39
in a good
18:40
mood,
18:43
touched your stomach,
18:44
said, what are we
18:46
gonna name the
18:47
baby? I said,
18:49
Britney, I said something's not right.
18:52
You'd be careful. Something's not
18:54
right. and
18:55
that's how we left the
18:58
day. Mary says that
18:59
while she and Britney were talking, Shane
19:02
was in the other room looking at motorcycles on the
19:04
computer. Dave approached him
19:06
and encouraged him to get his priorities straight.
19:08
They didn't have much money. The
19:10
house they were living and was too
19:12
small. And now, they had a second child
19:14
on the way. The dodson's felt
19:16
the last thing he should be doing is
19:18
shopping for motorcycles. This really
19:20
bothered them, which I understand, but you
19:23
can't really control what a person buys
19:25
anymore than you can control the
19:27
relationship. And frankly, it's
19:29
hard to get a read on Britney and Shane's relationship
19:31
at this point. After speaking
19:33
with Britney's friend, Samantha and
19:35
her parents, Dave and Mary, what
19:37
we've gathered is sort of mixed bag.
19:40
Britney was hesitant to tell Shane she
19:42
was pregnant again. And by two different
19:44
accounts, it seemed she had every right to be.
19:47
as the breaking of said news left Britney
19:49
at her home alone crying that
19:51
night. But then Shane seemed to
19:53
go from upset to excited, literally
19:56
overnight. Could you just needed some time
19:58
to process things? oh Ultimately,
20:00
I feel there's a lot more to learn
20:02
here. And as it stands, We
20:04
haven't yet heard from Shane.
20:06
So let's hear his
20:08
story.
20:11
They'll be
20:16
past her
20:17
home? heading
20:19
down
20:20
a two lane country road, we probably
20:22
would have missed Shane's house. Had
20:24
he not parked the infamous yellow
20:26
Jeep Wrangler out front. We make
20:28
a sharp turn into the driveway of his
20:31
modest one story home. just a
20:33
few counties over from where Britney and
20:35
Aubrey were shot nine years
20:37
ago, inside that very deep
20:39
park just
20:39
beside us. A
20:45
screen door smacks to a close. A Shane
20:47
casually steps out onto his porch wearing
20:50
a t shirt, cargo shorts, and a
20:52
checkered pair of vans. He's covered in
20:54
tattoos. Yet, what's
20:56
most noticeable? It's a thick red beard,
20:58
underlining his shaving head. as much as
21:00
we used to. Y'all even have a seat
21:02
wherever I don't have a lot of room,
21:04
but make you feel
21:06
comfortable, bud. I can break chairs in
21:08
here. After a quick intro, he welcomes us
21:10
into his living room, where I see a
21:12
busy wall displaying his adoration
21:14
for motorcycles. A
21:16
large Harley Davidson logo
21:18
hanging over the black leather couch
21:20
stands out amongst the other hog
21:22
signage. As does a placard,
21:24
just above a hat rack. reading,
21:26
this is us, our
21:28
life, our story,
21:31
our
21:31
home. We get
21:33
situated on the couch and Shane
21:35
folds his hands together, resting them on the
21:37
back of his head as he starts to tell
21:39
us how he and Britney met.
21:42
Our story begins at Subway,
21:46
actually in Ripley. She
21:48
worked there, and I ate there for
21:50
dinner every night because I was single dude. I only had my
21:52
kids on the weekends. So through the week, I eat
21:54
dinner in some way. And
21:56
she was in there all the time. So
21:59
we always
22:00
just had conversation. It
22:02
wasn't, like, nothing like
22:05
that. You know what I mean? It was just casual
22:07
conversation. And
22:09
she was had a boyfriend was
22:11
engaged or what out and whatnot. And
22:15
I didn't cross any lines, you
22:17
know. But one day she called
22:19
me and said that, I guess, he cheated on
22:21
her and and
22:23
she was single. And I said, well,
22:25
when can I take you out? she
22:28
kinda rammed me around a couple of
22:30
times, you know, nervous, I guess,
22:33
perhaps. And we finally
22:35
went out on day went
22:37
four way on and the Jeep, drank
22:39
some beer, and she
22:42
never left. That was it.
22:46
Britney and
22:46
Shane were coming from very different places
22:48
in life when their paths crossed.
22:50
Shane was out living on his own.
22:53
Britney was still living at home with
22:55
their parents. When they started dating,
22:57
Britney was about twenty years old,
22:59
and Shane was about fifteen years
23:01
her elder, though the age difference didn't
23:03
seem to bother them. her
23:05
personality, just super cool. You
23:08
know? Just she was like my best
23:10
friend, and then I fell in
23:12
love with her. once
23:14
we went on that date, she just kinda stayed
23:16
with me nonstop from that
23:19
point. We were together
23:20
for a little
23:21
while, and then she
23:24
informed me that she was pregnant with
23:26
with Aubrey. And I already had two
23:28
kids, you know, so I'm like, uh-huh. No.
23:32
You know? gosh. How am I support this? You
23:34
know? So I
23:36
want Aubrey to be born in
23:38
wedlock, you know, and not out of wedlock.
23:41
And so this one
23:43
day, I skipped work and
23:45
called off and woke
23:47
her up and She
23:50
said, what are you doing? Whom? I said, I
23:52
took the day off. And she said, what
23:54
do you wanna do? And I said, let's
23:56
go to your moms and
23:58
get your birth
23:59
certificate, and let's go get married.
24:03
And let's have that worked out.
24:05
We're
24:05
probably together, let's say,
24:08
a year before we got
24:10
married. It
24:11
was the best relationship I've
24:13
ever had in my life. I
24:15
wasn't arguing or nothing like that.
24:18
So it's just easy
24:20
one, and she was just easy to
24:22
be around. I just couldn't turn
24:24
away from it. was a good
24:27
balance for me.
24:29
I've always been kind of a high
24:32
strong person, you know,
24:34
she would was the chill to
24:36
my chaos. I've
24:39
been searching for it
24:41
ever since
24:42
hard to find.
24:44
Shane may have
24:48
lost Britney,
24:50
but he still has Aubrey, who happens to be just
24:53
like her mom. He's obviously thankful
24:55
for that.
24:57
That's
24:57
my prize right there. You know,
24:59
how all this is, She's
25:02
alive and well. I'm doing good
25:04
in every day. And I'm sorry, I'm gonna
25:06
cry when I say this. It's
25:10
it's just more and more, like, having her mom
25:12
back. And she acts just like her
25:15
same sense of
25:17
humor. So
25:19
I'm blessed with that.
25:25
Aubrey doesn't
25:26
remember anything about her mom or
25:28
the incident. She was too young when
25:30
it happened. All she knows
25:32
is what Shane and her
25:35
grandparents, the Dodson, have told
25:37
her. But with so much
25:39
information and disinformation throughout
25:41
years of news coverage, Shane
25:43
gets concerned about what she'll pick up on as she
25:45
gets older. What I
25:46
worry about with her is
25:48
that, you know, there there's gonna be a
25:50
day when she's sitting around
25:53
and and gets on some
25:55
Google and just
25:57
see some of the horrible
25:59
horrible crap that has been said
26:02
about her dad. And then
26:04
she's gonna be, like, asking
26:06
me questions. This
26:08
is
26:08
a legitimate fear of shanes,
26:10
not just paranoia getting the best of him.
26:12
And Brown County, his image
26:14
tarnished after Britney's death. There's no
26:16
way around that. And it's not shocking. Even
26:19
Shane acknowledges the husband is who the police
26:21
look at first. And that's exactly what
26:23
happened in this case. From the moment
26:25
he fell asleep the night of August twenty
26:28
eight, everything changed. And
26:30
I
26:30
woke up to
26:33
my whole world. upside down.
26:35
Beaten on the door, cops, opened
26:37
the door, they're, you
26:40
know, on point, looking around,
26:42
and I I didn't understand.
26:44
They were asking me
26:46
all these questions. And
26:48
I'm like, what and what? Like, do you
26:50
run this cheap? And I'm like, yeah. Where's
26:53
that? I'm like, my wife has
26:55
it? You know? him
26:57
and and then he
26:59
said, you you might wanna sit
27:01
down, you know.
27:04
You
27:05
know
27:06
I mean, you know what you might
27:08
wanna sit down and eat this. They
27:11
fell on
27:11
my jeep on the side of the road and
27:14
my wife and
27:16
child had been shot.
27:18
And I said, oh
27:20
my god. There's she alive
27:23
and told me that she's
27:25
not alive what the baby is.
27:27
It was all
27:29
happening so fast for Shane. It was,
27:31
like, a nightmare or the stuff you see
27:33
on TV as he likens it. Cops
27:36
at his door questioning him,
27:38
his wife is dead, his daughter
27:40
is in the hospital, and he says, it
27:42
only got worse from there. They
27:44
wouldn't even let me go to to
27:47
my daughter and get them flown to
27:49
Children's Hospital, and I wanna
27:51
go there. and they
27:53
take me up there and wonder
27:57
the light and
27:59
all that. shit. It
28:00
was
28:01
wrong. It
28:03
was absolutely wrong
28:07
the mobile my book. mean,
28:09
I don't understand. They gotta do
28:11
a job and whatever, but
28:13
so they take me in and
28:15
then they the first thing they did was start
28:17
swabbing me and all this and that.
28:20
And
28:22
they started asking me questions
28:24
and I just finally said,
28:27
you know, my under arrest, and they
28:29
said, now, and I said, I'm leaving.
28:31
And I went to y'all see
28:33
my daughter.
28:36
Shane stayed with
28:36
Aubrey at the hospital through her recovery,
28:39
but when it was all said and done and they were
28:41
released from the hospital, Things
28:44
went right back to where they were before he left
28:46
the station that night to tend to
28:48
angry. Shane
28:48
realized that the investigation was
28:51
very much focused on
28:53
him. I was suspect number one, they were
28:55
on me. Like, they were I mean, they were going
28:57
through my freaking dumpsters. They were freaking
28:59
had people taken pictures of
29:01
me and shit. It was it was weird. It was
29:04
really weird. Crazy. I
29:07
didn't ever have a bad reputation
29:09
there. That's why I didn't understand
29:11
why how all of a sudden, you know,
29:13
it's like, what? You know, like, I don't have
29:15
any kind of prior record. No no
29:17
crap like that. You know? You
29:19
know how it is? I'm sure
29:22
you've had people accuse you of someone in
29:24
life. You know? That
29:26
pisses you off just in
29:28
general. Correct? now magnify
29:30
that by a thousand
29:32
and they're blaming you for killing
29:34
your own family. You know what I mean?
29:37
I mean, if that don't piss you off, you know
29:39
what I'm saying? So
29:41
to deal with that, losing
29:44
my wife, losing the baby, almost
29:47
losing another baby. She lived
29:49
in children's hospital for
29:51
almost three months.
29:54
It's been a tough
29:55
situation for him to navigate, and
29:58
tough is probably an understatement. But
29:59
Shane is
30:01
fully aware. And he's not the only one
30:03
who suffered a loss here. She
30:06
took my kids in like they were at home.
30:08
They loved her to death. you know,
30:11
my son, they messed
30:13
him all up. It's a ripple. You know
30:15
what I mean? It just keeps going.
30:18
His
30:18
boys were pretty young when this
30:21
happened, ages six and thirteen. He
30:23
had to be strong for them. But in a much
30:25
different way than he did for one year old
30:27
Aubrey, who was undergoing multiple brain
30:29
surgeries in the hospital for months
30:32
asking how he got through it all?
30:35
Simple. His
30:36
faith. My wife
30:38
introduced me to
30:42
religion and, let's
30:44
say, greatest thing he
30:46
ever gave me in my life, you know, my
30:49
faith in God and
30:52
my relationship with God
30:54
I just prayed, like,
30:57
you wouldn't believe.
31:00
Pretty much four times a day, I'd
31:02
go down to the little mausoleum
31:04
thing and children's hospital and
31:06
just cry and beg.
31:09
Please, Lord. Please,
31:11
Lord don't take her. And
31:13
it worked out. So while
31:16
I'm in the hospital, you know,
31:18
I talked to our
31:20
pastor who married us, And
31:22
I told him, like, you
31:24
know, I wanna I wanna get baptized.
31:26
I wanna I wanna do this.
31:30
Right. And we did
31:32
that. He baptized me.
31:34
He gave me my first
31:36
bible. then turns
31:39
back on me.
31:43
That's a
31:43
story that doesn't need explaining.
31:45
Shane lumps the betrayal in with how the rest
31:47
of the town treated him before he eventually
31:49
left and started over. But
31:51
the point was his faith got him through those
31:53
months in the hospital. And now
31:55
Aubrey's here, and you wouldn't even know what
31:57
she's been through. You
32:00
can't even tell I mean,
32:02
you can see you can
32:04
see the bull at all still,
32:07
though but she is
32:10
straight
32:10
a's, tests
32:12
out, super high, all
32:14
her testing, and
32:17
she is her mom again.
32:20
sure. Britain is a smart girl, you know.
32:22
So
32:24
I'm I'm happy about that.
32:26
I mean, she's
32:27
a survivor, you know,
32:29
one out of three made it.
32:32
And, you know,
32:34
she lost her. mom,
32:37
I mean, and
32:40
a
32:40
sister, I'm told anyway.
32:42
I was told it was a female.
32:44
I I
32:46
don't
32:46
know. Like, how did you feel about this
32:49
one?
32:49
Oh, man. I was like, well, it was it
32:52
was less. it was
32:54
less. I mean, don't get me wrong. I
32:56
was not ring bows and
32:58
sunshine, you know, I
33:00
was What are you talking about? Are
33:03
you serious right now? Are you playing jokes? Right?
33:05
You know, it was it was
33:08
But I just thought I was like, look, it's
33:10
gonna be alright. We'll just do what we gotta
33:12
do, you know. And, obviously,
33:14
it'll it would've worked out because
33:16
look at her parents for going out loud,
33:18
you know. They're not exactly breaking in
33:21
the change, and they made it with
33:23
freaking five kids. So it's a
33:25
struggle, but somehow you'll make it
33:27
through. And since
33:28
that fatal night of August
33:31
twenty eight, twenty team thirteen,
33:33
Shane and his kids have done just that.
33:35
They've gotten through it. If
33:37
people wanna point fingers at him,
33:40
so be it. He knows the
33:42
person responsible for this is still out
33:44
there, and they need to pay for what they
33:46
did. He wants answers.
33:49
Who's the coward? It's not
33:51
me. I can tell you that
33:53
much. I'm not running for
33:55
shit When I'm
33:57
given the okay to go ahead
33:59
and
33:59
confront, what needs confronted,
34:02
I'm right there I'll deal with whatever
34:04
has to come. That's
34:06
fine. But someone's a
34:08
coward and shot an
34:10
in a a woman, a pregnant innocent
34:12
woman, and an innocent
34:14
baby. For what?
34:16
What are we even dealing with here?
34:18
Why why at this happen?
34:21
Who's pissed at who? What caused what? Where did it start? Why
34:23
is it going on? I mean, I
34:25
just wanna know
34:28
why. But
34:29
aside that my daughter,
34:31
the datsons, everybody
34:34
that she ever blessed in her
34:38
life deserves to know. Why?
34:40
Why?
34:42
That's obviously the million
34:44
dollar question here. But how
34:47
do you on the answer.
34:50
Well,
34:52
to start, we're gonna need to talk
34:54
about the day Britney
34:56
was murdered. because it wasn't
34:58
a particularly normal day.
35:00
And by that, I mean the entire
35:02
day was pretty abnormal. It
35:05
started early. There was an incident that occurred that
35:07
morning. Britney's friend Samantha told
35:09
us about this. Britney
35:12
and I
35:13
had spoke morning of her
35:16
death. She said
35:17
that she was going to go to
35:19
Shane's mom's house to fill out
35:21
this application for this
35:23
for my job. Well, she texted me
35:26
and she said, somebody
35:28
in a van ran her
35:30
off the side of the road. I
35:32
was like, what? And she was like, they ran
35:35
me off of the road. Most
35:37
people
35:37
would probably see this for what it
35:39
was, an incident of Road
35:42
rage. But Samantha has other
35:44
thoughts. She wants to
35:46
know, was that person trying to run
35:48
Britney off the road? Or were they
35:50
trying
35:50
to run that Jeep off the
35:52
road?
35:53
She never let Britney drive
35:55
that cheap, two
35:58
weeks before she
36:00
died. he
36:00
had Britney start driving that Jeep, and he took
36:03
Britney's car to
36:03
work, her
36:06
van.
36:07
Why did you put
36:10
her in that cheap? When you never let her drive it before,
36:12
never letter that before was
36:15
there
36:15
a target on your
36:17
back and you were
36:20
scared.
36:20
I don't know. I
36:22
i don't know
36:23
just I
36:25
have no questions.
36:27
This season
36:31
on Colobal,
36:32
at
36:34
least five shots in about a two and a half foot area
36:37
of car door. And this person
36:39
hit what they aimed at. I
36:41
really doubt this is
36:44
just some passing incident of a road
36:46
rage. There's only one way to keep a
36:48
secret, and that's if there's two
36:50
people in instead?
36:52
He came
36:53
to his house as soon
36:55
as that happened, said he
36:57
just killed someone.
37:00
we've looked at every possible avenue. Was
37:02
she the intended victim? Was somebody
37:04
jealous of her? Was it a
37:08
random act? I mean, the
37:09
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