Chris & Kayla are very easily listened to. They seem like great fun people who you would want to be friends with and have an actual conversation with about these things. This is why you listen to podcasts. It's almost like having a face to face conversation as you did before this whole Covid mess. The Q series "Crusaders" is very well done, and almost like they could have done a ton more, but only did the tip of the iceberg into the whole craziness.