This is the first time I have ever been bored by this podcast, and I have been listening to it since 2008. This episode didn't feel at all relevant to me. I have not seen the movie (so I skipped the Slate Plus in case I see it in streaming later, fingers crossed). I no longer have the energy to care about superheroes -- in fact, at a time when the most important thing we can do is come together as meaningless individuals to create the change we need but our institutions can no longer supply, the whole concept of superheroes seems borderline obscene to me. And I did not know who Clive James was. Huh, maybe, after 12 years of listening, I am over this podcast?