In this best-of episode, Recode's Kara Swisher talked to New York Times Magazine reporter Nikole Hannah-Jones about how COVID-19 magnified inequality in the US, and our historical failure to treat essential workers — from meat-packing plants to checkout counters to delivery drivers — with the respect and protection they deserve. Hannah-Jones, who created the 1619 Project at the NYT, also talks about the technology gap and current inequalities in pre-college education, and says the crisis is also an opportunity to reset the deeply unjust gig economy.

Featuring:

Nikole Hannah-Jones (@nhannahjones), reporter, New York Times Magazine

Host:

Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."

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