Decoder with Nilay Patel

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Nilay Patel talks with Marques Brownlee (MKBHD on YouTube) about building a business as a YouTuber, how content creators make money, and how to scale when you are the brand. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Verge's Nilay Patel talks with head of Instagram Adam Mosseri about how to run a creative platform like Instagram at scale while keeping users — and democracy — safe, how much responsibility the platforms have for what their algorithms promote, and, of course, Instagram's products like Reels, Stories, and IGTV. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the aftermath of the pro-Trump attack on the Capitol, many online platforms, including both Twitter and Facebook, banned President Trump. In this week’s episode, Nilay Patel talks with regulation expert and law professor Daphne Keller, about a big problem: how to moderate what happens on the internet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Today’s episode is with Beyond Meat founder and CEO Ethan Brown. Nilay and Ethan discuss how the company is doing since its IPO in 2019 and how they are fairing during the pandemic. The food supply chain has seen significant impact during COVID and there has been an increased demand for plant-based proteins during the pandemic, with meat shortages and more people cooking at home. They also talk about how Beyond Meat is structured, how they are different from other competitors in the market, and what’s next from the company. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Advertising is a huge part of the economy and something we all experience everyday through various mediums. In this episode, Nilay Patel talks with Cadillac CMO Melissa Grady about how advertising has been reinvented by technology — from data-driven insights to new social media platforms to the role of influencers in marketing. They also unpack how modern advertising works and where it's headed in the future.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nilay Patel talks to Chris Best, cofounder and CEO of Substack, the subscription newsletter startup that’s taken the media industry by storm over the past few months.The conversation explores how Substack's business model could potentially impact the media industry, but also dives into the basic questions about running a media company -- how Substack makes money, how it’s going to scale while offering additional services to writers, like legal protection, and, of course, content moderation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of Decoder, Nilay talks with Shelli Taylor, the CEO of Alamo Drafthouse. Shelli stepped into her new role as CEO during the pandemic.In this conversation, Nilay and Shelli discuss the steps she had to take to get her company back on solid ground — including justifying high fixed costs of expensive lightbulbs — and how the government has failed to manage the pandemic effectively for business owners. They also talk about what it will take to safely reopen theaters and what the future looks like, especially in the streaming age. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week’s episode of Decoder Nilay Patel talks to Phil Spencer, the guy in charge of Xbox at Microsoft. They discuss not only the next-generation Xbox and PS5 just arriving in stores now, but how gaming itself has become part of mainstream culture, a trend that has definitely accelerated during the pandemic. We’ve also reached an inflection point for game streaming: Google, Amazon, and Microsoft all have services that allow consumers to play games on any device by streaming them over the internet, kind of like Netflix for games. Is that the future? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week’s episode of Decoder, Nilay Patel talks with Sal Khan, the co-founder and CEO of Khan Academy, a nonprofit online learning platform for students in kindergarten through high school. Khan Academy is an organization that exists because of technology. What started with Sal tutoring his niece in math over video using off the shelf cameras and software, has grown into an organization with nearly 20 million users per month, available in 46 languages and used in more than 190 countries. And online learning has gotten even more vital with the pandemic.In this conversation, Nilay and Sal discuss the future of learning, what online education is good at and where it struggles, how Khan Academy is growing, and how Sal’s thinking about handling trickier subjects like history and social studies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the first episode of Decoder, Nilay Patel interviews Mark Cuban. Mark is the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, he’s a tech investor, and is on the hit show, Shark Tank. The conversation, recorded as last week’s election results rolled in, covers how interwoven business, technology, and policy are, whether its 5G, or the NBA bubble, or AI, or his investments into healthcare -- if you want to understand the landscape of the future, you have to understand tech, you have to understand business, and you have to understand policy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It may seem like a strange time to launch a podcast about business when the pandemic has frozen so many things in place, but the future is still coming — people are building technology and making policy for it right now. And it’s important to talk to them. This is Decoder with Nilay Patel. New episodes coming November 10th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode, originally published in February 2019, Kara Swisher talks with Harvard Business School professor emerita Shoshana Zuboff about her book The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power. Zuboff talks about the way tech companies have eroded democracy, why she coined the term "surveillance capitalism," and what can be done about it.Featuring:Shoshana Zuboff (@shoshanazuboff), author, The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of PowerHost:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode, originally published in March 2018, Kara Swisher talks to sex and relationship therapist Esther Perel, the host of the podcast Where Should We Begin? Perel discusses her then-new book about infidelity, The State of Affairs, and how dating apps like Tinder discourage their users from pursuing committed relationships. This interview was recorded live in Austin, Texas at South by Southwest 2018.Featuring:Esther Perel (@EstherPerel), host, Where Should We Begin?Host:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode, originally published in January 2018, Kara Swisher talks to Netflix's former chief talent officer Patty McCord about that company's famous "culture deck" and her book Powerful: Building a Culture of Freedom and Responsibility. McCord recalls how CEO Reed Hastings convinced her to work at Netflix, the common mistakes companies make when hiring and firing, and why coddling employees with Google-style perks is overrated.Featuring:Patty McCord, (@pattymccord1), author, Powerful: Building a Culture of Freedom and ResponsibilityHost:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode, originally published in March 2018, Kara Swisher talks to former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci about his infamous 11-day stint in the Trump administration and why he believed Trump would win re-election. Scaramucci also talks about Reince Priebus and Steve Bannon, the culture of backstabbing in Washington, and Trump's secret admirers in Silicon Valley.Featuring:Anthony Scaramucci (@scaramucci), founder of SkyBridge CapitalHost:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In these best-of interview excerpts — originally published in March 2016, August 2017, and March 2020 — Kara Swisher talks with venture capitalist and Social Capital CEO Chamath Palihapitiya. They discuss his time working at AOL and Facebook, the problems with corporate culture in Silicon Valley, and how the industry and office culture as a whole were shaken up by COVID-19.Featuring:Chamath Palihapitiya (@chamath), CEO, Social CapitalHost:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode originally published in January 2018, writer and comedian Sarah Cooper talks with Kara Swisher and Dick Costolo about why she left a career in the tech industry to become a stand-up comic. Cooper has made tech a central part of her comedy and has written a book based in part on her time at Yahoo and Google called 100 Tricks To Appear Smart in Meetings. The group debates whether people who work in tech are funny (on purpose) and whether depictions of them in popular culture, on shows like HBO’s Silicon Valley or CBS’ The Big Bang Theory, hit their mark.Featuring:Sarah Cooper (@sarahcpr), comedianHosts:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeDick Costolo (@dickc), former CEO, TwitterMore to explore:On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode originally published in October 2017, Recode's Kara Swisher talks to investor Ellen Pao about her book, Reset: My Fight for Inclusion and Lasting Change, which chronicled Pao’s 2015 court battle against her former employer, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers. They discuss her unsuccessful gender discrimination lawsuit, how it paved the way for future whistleblowers such as Susan Fowler at Uber, and the problems with Silicon Valley's "free speech" idealism.Featuring:Ellen Pao (@ekp), author, Reset: My Fight for Inclusion and Lasting ChangeHost:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode originally published in October 2016, Recode's Kara Swisher talks to the host of The Late Late Show, James Corden, about redesigning a talk show for the YouTube generation. He talks about the viral video hits that broke out from the show such as "Carpool Karaoke," his complicated relationship with technology, and why he hates it when people use the term "the cloud."Featuring:James Corden (@JKCorden), host, The Late Late ShowHost:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode, Recode's Kara Swisher talked to New York Times Magazine reporter Nikole Hannah-Jones about how COVID-19 magnified inequality in the US, and our historical failure to treat essential workers — from meat-packing plants to checkout counters to delivery drivers — with the respect and protection they deserve. Hannah-Jones, who created the 1619 Project at the NYT, also talks about the technology gap and current inequalities in pre-college education, and says the crisis is also an opportunity to reset the deeply unjust gig economy.Featuring:Nikole Hannah-Jones (@nhannahjones), reporter, New York Times MagazineHost:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode, Recode's Kara Swisher talks to Rappler CEO Maria Ressa about doing investigative journalism in the Philippines, where social media has emboldened an autocratic president. Ressa — currently appealing a "cyber libel" conviction — explains why the Philippines was a cautionary tale for the United States, how Facebook's inaction on disinformation poisoned the political discourse, and what Mark Zuckerberg told her when she tried to appeal to him directly.Featuring:Maria Ressa (@mariaressa), co-founder and CEO of RapplerHosts:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode, Recode's Kara Swisher talks to NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden about his book "Permanent Record," how his youthful love of the US government and the early internet turned into skepticism, and why he leaked highly classified information in 2013.Featuring:Edward Snowden (@Snowden), author of Permanent Record and president of Freedom of the Press Foundation (@FreedomofPress)Hosts:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode, originally published in September 2017, Recode's Kara Swisher talks to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman and Washington Post reporter David Fahrenthold about their reporting on the Trump White House and his finances. They explain how they both accidentally got onto the Trump beat and how Twitter helps them do their jobs.Featuring:Maggie Haberman (@maggienyt), New York Times White House correspondentDavid Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold), Washington Post reporterHosts:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In these best-of excerpts from several episodes of Recode Decode, Kara Swisher talks to her Pivot co-host Scott Galloway about the tech giants, the secrets of happiness, and the future of business and marketing. These interviews were originally published in June 2017, September 2017, and May 2019.Featuring:Scott Galloway (@ProfGalloway), co-host of Pivot and professor, NYU Stern School of BusinessHosts:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this best-of episode, former deputy CTO of the United States Nicole Wong talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about the future of tech policy and why content moderation is more complicated than many people think. They discuss how she went from working for Google to working for President Obama, and Wong proposes a "slow food movement for the internet" to steer companies away from their addiction to "engagement."Featuring:Nicole Wong (@nicolewong), former deputy CTO, United StatesHosts:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. On Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla examined "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Created by
Vox Media Podcast Network
Podcast Status
Active
Started
Jul 8th, 2015
Latest Episode
Jan 22nd, 2021
Release Period
3 per week
Episodes
581
Avg. Episode Length
About 1 hour
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No
Order
Episodic
Language
English
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