On this episode of the Engagious Podcast, I talk with two of the biggest names and trailblazers in the DR business: Fern Lee, CEO of Thor Associates, and Tom Shipley, co-founder and CEO of Atlantic Coast Brands. Fern, Tom and I discuss some of their secrets of success in building multi-million dollar brands and how they've been able to evolve with the times and the tech to stay ahead of the curve.