Anyone who has setup an e-commerce site or a retailer who wanted to use a modern payment system has faced challenges and high fees. Not counting the numerous technical issues with foreign credit cards and currencies. MIPS, Multiple Internet Payment Systems, has been created after this idea by Sebastien Le Blanc.

In this episode we talk about payment systems in Africa, the relationship with regulators and financial institutions, and innovation in the finance space. It's a fast and fun discussion, with some smalltalk but no censorship. An uppercut right into the jaw. Have fun, no listeners will be harmed!

Some wisdom from Gandhi we discussed: "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."