I find these weekly conversations so deeply humbling: to be able to talk with people at such an intimate level is such an honour. In this episode, Andy Henderson and his amazing son Archie share their life experiences which have been nothing short of excruciating. 
We get the word "excruciating" from the word "crucifixion": Andy and Archie, individually and together, have experienced the pain and yet also the power of the Cross. 
To witness their faith is searingly beautiful.