Welcome film scholar/minister/existential philosopher Charles B. Ketcham, author of THE INFLUENCE OF EXISTENTIALISM ON INGMAR BERGMAN and THE SEARCH FOR A NEW MYTHOLOGY: FEDERICO FELLINI. (You can still find used copies of his books on Amazon.)

We discuss the beginnings of art house film and film scholarship in America, as well as existentialism and Ingmar Bergman's PERSONA.

He is joined by his one-time student Dr. Rebecca Rabin. She discusses how confronting Bergman led her to confront a few other things, and, ultimately, becoming a psychotherapist.

We enjoy a wide-ranging conversation about film, philosophy, education, and laughing into the abyss. Enjoy.