Fordham Conversation host Robin Shannon talks diversity with Rafael Zapata. He is Chief Diversity Officer, Special Assistant to the President for Diversity, and Associate Vice President for Academic Affairs. They discuss Fordham University's plan to foster diversity, equity, inclusion, and academic excellence.

Then we hear from Michelle Silverthorn who is a diversity and inclusion trainer. She is also the author of the bestselling book "Authentic Diversity: How to Change the Workplace for Good." They discuss the best practices a business should follow when creating a diversity plan.