As promised, Kathrin and Roberta sit down for another fantastic conversation, this time diving into the intersection of hope and cynicism, what forgiveness means, and why each person deserves the chance to make their own choice about forgiving someone who has caused harm.

While both Roberta and Kathrin share stories during their conversation, each one humorous and poignant in turn, Roberta reflects on the story she’d shared as a clinical facilitator at Wellness Retreats provided by the Ministering to Ministers foundation. 

As the friendship between Roberta and Kathrin grows during this episode, they invite you to join them.  Welcome, friend. It’s great to have you with us for the journey.

Some links to share:
Why Memorizing Stuff Can Be Good for You (Forbes, by Natalie Wexler, 2019)

Memorizing Poetry:
Why You Should Be Memorizing Poetry (Medium, by Benya Clark, 2018)
Got Poetry (by Jim Holt, New York Times, 2009) 

The origins of cynicism: TedEx video: https://youtu.be/Utzym1I_BiY
One perspective on cynicism from The School of Life
                 (Here is the link to The School of Life YouTube channel.)  

Sources about the Jerzy Bielcki & Cyla Cybulska story:
From Haaretz: Former Inmate Recalls Daring, Romantic Escape from Auschwitz
From The New York Times: Jerzy Bielecki Dies at 90 Fell in Love in a Nazi Camp
From Yadvashem, The Stories of Six Righteous Among the Nations
From Keene State College, Cohen Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies   

Roberta’s Website: RobertaDamon.me
Books authored by Roberta:
A Voice Beyond Weeping
Dear Mrs. Noah: Letters to Unnamed Women of the Bible
Roberta’s Introduction to Dear Mrs. Noah on YouTube
Dear Abishag: Letters to Little Known Women of the Bible
Theirs Is the Kingdom
Roberta M. Damon, PhD, recipient of the Ministering to Ministers’ Campbell-Wallace Award
Interested in Contacting Roberta? Send her a note here. 

Also:
Lewis B. Smedes’ book, Forgive & Forget, Healing the Hurts We Don’t Deserve   

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