Izzie paused his caravan to chat about the blues, his inspiration, how to tell stories and how to record imperfectly as he comes close to releasing his new record. He and Michael also talked about his career as a philosopher, and a teacher.

Discussing favourite authors and how bad education can be. Jumping back into music, they consider musical lineages, copyright reforms, and how social media for musicians pushes fame more than creativity.

This one travels pretty far, but it’s a good journey.

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