This is the second episode in a three-part series on the Atlantic Council’s landmark report, Global Risks 2035: Search for a New Normal, by Mathew Burrows, director of the Atlantic Council’s Strategic Foresight Initiative. In this episode, Alex Ward, associate director at the Atlantic Council’s Brent Scowcroft Center on International Security, speaks with August Cole, the co-author of Ghost Fleet, and Madeline Ashby, the author of vN, two science fiction writers who help us think completely differently about the many possibilities the future holds.

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