Dr. Gay Bradshaw is a psychologist, ecologist and pioneer researcher on animal trauma whose latest book Talking with Bears: Conversations with Charlie Russell is about our mutual friend and “bear whisperer” who challenged our way of thinking about and relating to wild animals, especially grizzly bears. Charlie articulated a vision he called “fitting in,” that meant deep listening, becoming part of where you are rather than standing out and dominating other beings, that has led to so much destruction of the planet. Gay concludes that we must “recede, refrain and restrain,” and that we have a perfect opportunity to make a radical change in our culture and devote ourselves to nature's wellness by putting ourselves second to nature.