Consider this an Ideasicle "Twofor."

Prior to the first episode of AMC's "The Pitch" coming out, I wrote an article on Forbes.com about why I thought the big agencies were afraid to participate in such a show. Then I interviewed the two creative directors from the first episode: Jonathan Cude from McKinney and Tracy Wong from WDCW. Both of those interviews can be found on video at http://blogs.forbes.com/willburns/. 

But I wanted my Ideasicle Podcast fans on iTunes to have access to them too. So this is the first one with Jonathan Cude. We talk about why he and his agency decided to do the show and we got a whole lot of behind the scenes stories from his experience on the show. Great stuff. 

And released simultaneously will be the Tracy Wong podcast, so be on the lookout for that one too.