On this episode of the InvestFourMore Real Estate Podcast, I interview Rick Allen and TJ Osterman who created Paperstac. Paperstac is a company that helps investors find, buy, and sell performing and non-performing notes on real estate. Rick and TJ both have extensive experience investing in real estate themselves. They have bought and sold over 400 homes before they got into the note business. I talk to both Rick and TJ to learn how they got into real estate, what they love about the real estate note business, and how others can get into it as well.