I'm Fred Kennedy, host of Issue Zero, this week I chat with Nug Nahrgang from Illusionoid podcast. I've known him forever, he was one of the first viral memes on the internet. He's the Mustard Man, trust me you've seen the Mustard Man even if you think you don't know what it is. He also auditioned for Saturday Night Live years ago. He's done improvisational comedy, musical theatre, was in Evil Dead the musical, and was in Dark Rising. That's actually how I met him. He was in this horror comedy called Dark Rising, and we talk about the time he was in a movie with Jackie Chan.