Larry weighs in on the goals of the Black Lives Matter movement. Then, author James McBride joins the show to talk about covering music legends like Michael Jackson and James Brown (11:47), why he made the switch from journalism to fiction writing (41:54), and his new book, 'Deacon King Kong' (45:10).

Host: Larry WilmoreGuest: James McBride

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