Empovia (formerly Change Catalyst) Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler talks with Andrea G. Tatum, Senior Director of Corporate Equity Engagement at Catalyst Inc., about how to create a supportive working environment. We discuss Catalyst's research and the challenges or emotional tax for women, particularly women of color, from having to be "on guard" at work, which can impact well-being and the ability to thrive in the workplace. 

In this rich conversation, we learn about:

• Andrea's personal experience experiencing racism in the workplace and how that led her to become an advocate for change
• The role of inclusive leaders to develop workplace cultures where people feel valued and enabled to contribute their skills and expertise fully
• The powerful changes that leading with empathy can drive in the workplace

Insights from Andrea include:

"I think everybody has the opportunity always to be a learner. And I had never really thought about empathy as a skill. You're not either born with empathy or not. You can learn it. You can learn to have empathy as a leader, and it's really a superpower and has the ability to drive so much change within the workplace."

"Just like anything else. I can't expect to lose weight if I eat what I want to eat and I don't go to the gym. That's not realistic. So I always think about empathy and inclusive leadership as skills that you actively have to work towards. It's a muscle that you can build over time."

"What really makes emotional tax so unique is that it's not limited to just the workplace. As people of color, this is our experience day in and day out. Everywhere we go, we don't have the luxury of being able to put aside our skin and say, well, today, I'm not a woman of color. I'm not a black woman. "

Additional Resources

• Connect with Andrea and learn more about her work at https://www.andreagtatum.com/
• "Why Empathy is A Superpower in the Future of Work" report by Catalyst: https://www.catalyst.org/research/empathy-superpower-future-of-work/

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