(8/16/21)"Climate change is a hoax and so is coronavirus." "Vaccines are bad for you." These days, many of our fellow citizens reject scientific expertise and prefer ideology to facts. They are not merely uninformed—they are misinformed. How can we get them to change their minds and accept the facts when they don't believe in facts? In his new book, How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason, Lee McIntyre, a research fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University, shows that anyone can fight back against science deniers. Join us for a look at why science denial can kill in this installment of Leonard Lopate at Large on WBAI.