David Fravor is a navy pilot of 18 years and a primary witness in one of the most credible UFO sightings in history, video of which has been released by the Pentagon and reported on by the NY Times.

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OUTLINE:00:00 - Introduction07:13 - Top Gun12:06 - Navy pilot career24:14 - AI is the third brain of a jet fighter40:37 - Sully47:34 - Landing a jet fighter on a carrier53:18 - What's it like to fly a jet fighter?1:05:22 - Greatest plane ever made1:11:04 - The Tic Tac UFO story1:49:16 - Intelligent extraterrestrial life1:53:30 - Why aren't UFOs investigated more seriously1:59:52 - Tic Tac UFO details2:07:55 - What do you think the Tic Tac was?2:16:23 - SpaceX2:30:01 - Response to Mick West Debunking2:48:24 - Was the Tic Tac a secret military test?3:00:07 - Is the government in possession of alien spacecraft?3:25:28 - Interesting UFO sightings in history3:39:55 - Advice for Young People3:47:47 - Meaning of life