The title of this podcast is so us: The Spirituality of Global Supply Chains. I love it.

You get to a great episode name like that by interviewing journalist and broadcaster Lucy Siegle, who has been at the forefront of communicating and campaigning around ethical and environmental questions. For years her weekly column in the Observer dealt with the sorts of issues that seem so intractable. What I loved about it was that she always took this stuff seriously but met people where they were, and knew it was impractical to go off-grid.

As an author she’s written books on two books on Fast Fashion, and one on Plastic. Surprising takeaway: fish love it. But she doesn’t just write about this she campaigns setting the Green Carpet Project - that sent celebs to red carpet events in gorgeous, sustainable gowns, to show that going green doesn’t mean dressing muni-bean. Just this year she became chair of the Real Circularity Coalition.

In our convo there were three big things I left with:

1. A Truly Circular Economy: what does it mean to build and make in a way that is truly sustainable?
2. Lucy's spiritual vision around the inter-connectedness of the planet through the supply-chains that connect us.
3. The 93 Billion Ton Question: every year 93 billion tons are extracted from the earth - how can we change that?

The only downside is that occasionally her sound goes a bit funny - which is on us. We fixed it as much as poss. but there are times she becomes a little bit clipped.

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