There’s a saying about goldfish: they only grow to fit the size of their bowl. It’s a good metaphor on how we stifle our potential with arbitrary limitations. But what about the fish that could never survive in a bowl it the first place? What then?

Scout Sobel had her first depressive episode at fourteen years old. She suffers from a severe case of bipolar type 2 disorder and general anxiety disorder. She’s been hospitalized and through outpatient treatments twice. She dropped out of college, quit internships and jobs, and was ultimately deemed “unfunctionable.” Friends and family weren’t sure she’d ever hold a job or be able to live independently. She was that metaphorical fish that might not thrive in the bowl, no matter how big it was.

Today, Scout founded and runs the successful PR agency, Scout’s Agency, that specializes in amplifying women’s voices via digital outlets like podcasts. Her clients include Cat Sadler and Rebecca Minkoff along with brands like Bala and Remedy. 

Scout joins us to talk about the opportunity entrepreneurship offers for those of whom traditional employment doesn’t work. She will walk us through the purpose and healing she’s gained through being a business owner. In addition to walking us through her story, Scout will advise us how to overcome hesitancy to pursue passions, and explain why that’s so important for those struggling with mental health. She’ll also offer tips on staying motivated and focused – a challenge for many entrepreneurs, but especially for those struggling with depression and other mental illness.

Today’s conversation serves to de-stigmatize mental health, offers hope to those struggling, and inspires all listening to challenge our limitations so that we might maximize our potential and thrive. 

Please note: this show includes conversation about mental illness that may be triggering for some. It also is an inspiring success story that offers guidance and hope for those suffering.  If you are struggling with mental illness or suicidal thoughts please call:

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (800) 273-TALK

National Alliance on Mental Health (800)950-NAMI