What in the name of Indo-Pacific relations is going on with the submarines? Did Joe Biden really forget Scomo's name? Should we be scared? Jessie, please explain.

Plus, legendary American magazine Time does its World’s Most Influential people cover once a year. This year, they've done seven covers, and Harry and Meghan are on one of them. We discuss.

And, our best and worst of the week, including a parenting meltdown and a photoshoot. 

The End Bits:

Recommendations: Holly thinks you should read Liane Moriarty's new book, Apples Never Fall.

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Producer: Emma Gillespie 

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