This is part two one of a two-part conversation with Cira Pascual Marquina and Chris Gilbert, editors of the book Venezuela, The Present As Struggle: Voices From The Bolivarian Revolution. The book is a collection of interviews with Chavistas, communards, campesinos, and a variety of activists, organizers, intellectuals and workers from the grassroots in Venezuela. 

Cira Pascual Marquina is Political Science professor at the Universidad Bolivariana de Venezuela in Caracas and a writer and editor for Venezuelanalysis.com.

Chris Gilbert teaches Marxist political economy at the Universidad Bolivariana de Venezuela. His articles have appeared in Rebelión, LaHaine, Monthly Review, and CounterPunch. Gilbert and Pascual Marquina are creators of the Marxist educational program Escuela de Cuadros, broadcast on Venezuelan public television.

In part two of our discussion here, we ask Pasqual Marquina and Gilbert why Chavez continues to be such an important figure for the left in Venezuela years after his death. We also talk about tendencies within the left that can tend to denounce or renounce state power. The editors discuss critiques within the book related to clientelism, and their thoughts on role of the party and of direct democracy - and the voices of the people - in a revolutionary process.

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