Sam Sanders and Saeed Jones help us unpack a big week, from student loan forgiveness to the made up phrase “quiet quitting.” Sam is the host of the Vulture podcast ‘Into It’ and Saeed Jones is author of the forthcoming poetry collection ‘Alive at the End of the World.’ They are also two of the hosts of the new Stitcher podcast ‘Vibe Check.’

Then, indie rock musician Courtney Barnett tells us about her extreme vulnerability in the new documentary ‘Anonymous Club.’