On the latest episode of the New Relic Modern Software Podcast, we welcome Java guru Ben Evans—who recently joined New Relic’s European Development Center in sunny Barcelona, Spain—to take a close look at the current state of the world’s most popular programming language, New Relic’s support of Java and open source, optimizing Java in a microservices world, Java anti-patterns, and much, much more.

Ben is a Java Champion, three-time JavaOne Rock Star speaker and, a prolific author of Java books, including The Well-Grounded Java Developer, and co-author of Optimizing Java and the new edition of Java in A Nutshell. He spent six years as a member of the Java Community Process Executive Committee (aka the JCPC) helping define standards for the Java ecosystem.

Leading Ben’s interview is Modern Software Podcast co-host Tori Wieldt, a Java expert in her own right, who managed Oracle’s Java community for five years.

You can read an edited transcript of the entire podcast on the New Relic Blog: https://blog.newrelic.com/engineering/java-ben-evans-modern-software-podcast/