We welcome David Kallison to his first recording with us instead of correcting us! We warm up by talking about the contraversy surrounding one of the pillars of the genre, Brand New.

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Stuff we talked about:

[What Do We Do With The Art Of Monstorus Men?](https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2017/11/20/art-monstrous-men/)

[Chorus.fm](http://Chorus.fm)

[Encore podcast](https://chorus.fm/podcasts)

[Patton Oswalt's "You're enjoying me the wrong way"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH8japq5lz4)

[David Kallison's book of poetry: My Day As A Ghost](https://www.amazon.com/My-Day-Ghost-David-Kallison/dp/1981492313/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520640346&sr=8-1&keywords=david+kallison&dpID=31kvFfkj3fL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch)