Vanessa and Carolyn are joined by Kate of the Pups n Pop Culture podcast! Kate is a longtime Phile and we can't believe she hasn't been a guest until now. You don't want to miss her Robert Patrick story, as well as the other fun topics we cover to try and keep this creepy episode light: Scully's quick switch from skeptic to believer, Doggett's interrogation tactics, how you can take blood samples from ghosts, and Fun True Crime Story Time with Carolyn!

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