I begin this podcast by telling a story of an intense and kind of, I guess, unique human experience I became involved in over this past weekend. It’s pretty heavy and graphic.

After that, Julia Gardner and I have a fun talk about poetry, playground boys, cringey open micers, engaging crowds, looking up my Nana’s nightgown, and getting chased by dogs. Julia talks about losing her father when she was a child, and mental health awareness.

Julia is a poet who runs a writing workshop here in Busan, and I got her on the pod before she leaves Busan to pursue a MFA in poetry.

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