Episode 116 - On today’s show we bring you one of the first in-depth interviews with Force of Nature co-founders, Michael Epstein and Laird Hamilton.Michael has been building obstacles for a very long long time. First, as part of The Hi Tec Adventure Racing Series from 1997-2002. His company then produced Muddy Buddy for about 10 years. They continued on to bring us one of the first “true” OCR’s to go nationwide, known as The Down and Dirty Obstacle Race.Laird has been a household name for decades as a big wave surfing legend, author, and more recently, as a standup paddleboard designer.  He hooked up with Michael and MESP for the Force of Nature Mind Body Challenge. A 10-12 mile obstacle race which debuts in Southern California on April 26.Tune in to learn about what brought these two together and hear about their vision for this new obstacle series.Today’s show is sponsored by Down and Dirty Obstacle Race. Save $5 when you use code ORMDD15 at registration.Show Notes:Hi Tec Adventure Racing Video circa 1999Laird's website