-This episode is brought to you in part by the Barnard Medical Center. To set up a telehealth appointment today call 202-527-7500 or on pcrm.org.-In the intro to the show, Jasmin and Mariann present virtually at Main Street Vegan Academy, Jasmin's interview with Joaquin Phoenix is now available, and Mariann recorded a new Animal Law Podcast episode. We also talk about the new collection of essays Jasmin edited for Encompass and the ongoing quarantine. We also continue our Supporting Vegan Businesses program by shouting out Compton Vegan. Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties!-Mariann talks to author and activist Deb Olin Unferth about her new novel, Barn 8, and how she came to the story of auditors going rogue and plotting to free one million chickens. She delves into the research she did leading up to writing the book, how her investigations into the egg industry informed the book, and the inspiration she took from recording the chatter of chickens. (23:10)-Mariann brings us the latest Rising Anxieties from the industrial animal ag world. (1:05:17)